rjl Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 I want to reserve judgement on Gavilar, there is a possibility (though small perhaps) that he was pushing Navani away to protect her from something that was about to happen. And whilst that approach is rarely good it could have had a positive objective. Amaran continually attempts to justify evil, calling it good - UGGGH. Sadeas is terrible - though in many ways he's what Dalinar would have been if Dalinar had not changed, which is hard to think about. Moash, is understandable but still AWFUL. I can't choice between them.
Hoid the Former Drifter he/him Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 I hate sadeas. He's so full of himself and thinks he's a good person, but he throws out lives every day because they are darkeyed. What the heck?
+Spicker Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, rjl said: I want to reserve judgement on Gavilar, there is a possibility (though small perhaps) that he was pushing Navani away to protect her from something that was about to happen. And whilst that approach is rarely good it could have had a positive objective. This is the only reason I haven't put him as number 1 worst yet. There is a small chance that he's not as bad as this prologue paints him. I do find that very unlikely though, especially by the way he was talking about Elhokar and Dalinar. I saw that as his ugliness coming out rather than trying to push anyone away specifically. Gavilar is still an unknown but there is definitely potential there for being the worst. Also, that whole section about living forever.... creepy. It is very ominous to me. That part does not read as him trying to push Navani away. 1
rjl Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, Spicker said: This is the only reason I haven't put him as number 1 worst yet. There is a small chance that he's not as bad as this prologue paints him. I do find that very unlikely though, especially by the way he was talking about Elhokar and Dalinar. I saw that as his ugliness coming out rather than trying to push anyone away specifically. Gavilar is still an unknown but there is definitely potential there for being the worst. Also, that whole section about living forever.... creepy. It is very ominous to me. That part does not read as him trying to push Navani away. Agreed - I'm trying to take the most positive view I can even if it's implausible. And I really hope whatever he was alluding to with living forever failed, I do not want him to come back.
KandraAllomancer he/him Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) I voted for Gavilar, but seriously, it made me think of this Edited July 26, 2020 by KandraAllomancer 2
Hoid the Former Drifter he/him Posted August 7, 2020 Posted August 7, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 7:56 AM, rjl said: Amaran continually attempts to justify evil, calling it good - UGGGH. Right, I forgot him. I hate him too!
Nymeros Posted August 7, 2020 Posted August 7, 2020 Sadeas. An all-around terrible human being with no magical influence and no philanthropic or sympathetic motive.
CosmereanAntelope he/him Posted August 9, 2020 Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) I don't really hate Moash (except when he offed Elhokar *still salty*) I just feel indifferent towards him. I will say, though, that his chapters in OB were not my favorite. Sadeas, hmmmm.... I'm glad he's dead. Amaram... is tricky. Don't like as a person AT ALL. But he also crosses the border of indifference if he isn't really antagonizing any of my favorite characters. So, basically, on his own, I don't really care. and... Gavilar, the newly-revealed bastard-who-is-closely-connected-to-some-of-the-main-characters. Also glad he's dead, but I'm still intrigued by him his motivations and his plans prior to his death. Edited August 9, 2020 by CosmereanAntelope
Aminar Posted August 9, 2020 Posted August 9, 2020 Sadeas. So far he's done the most on screen awful. If Ialai were on the list I'd be tempted to pick her because she's alive and just as involved in all that awful. Gavilar may take that cake eventually, we'll see. Amaram is bad but most of what he did gets laid at Sadeas's or Ialai's feet first. Moash sucks but is smaller scale.
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