Szeth as Skybreaker

[+Bzhydack he/him]

So, Szeth at the end of Oathbringer is 3Ideal Skybreaker, bonded with Highspren. He sworn not to use Nightblood in second part of Battle on Thaylen Fields. But why he dont use his Shardblade? 3d Ideal is standard for other Orders to gain Shardblade, is this different for Skybreakers?

[PiedPiper she/her]

There's no official explanation for this yet (I searched Arcanum), but it's possible that Szeth's highspren refused to manifest as a Blade as long as he was carrying Nightblood, similar to how many other intelligent spren take offense at Shardbearers.

Edited July 16, 2020 by PiedPeterPiper

[+Bzhydack he/him]

1 minute ago, PiedPeterPiper said:

There's no official explanation for this yet (I searched Arcanum), but it's possible that Szeth's highspren refused to manifest as a Blade as long as he was carrying Nightblood, similar to how many other intelligent spren take offense at Shardbearers.

Yeah, but Nightblood isnt (technicaly) Spren. And we saw other spren close to this sword and they say nothing about it, as they always do close to dead Shardblades (especialy Wyndle was very close).

[PiedPiper she/her]

30 minutes ago, Bzhydack said:

Yeah, but Nightblood isnt (technicaly) Spren. And we saw other spren close to this sword and they say nothing about it, as they always do close to dead Shardblades (especialy Wyndle was very close).

I'm not saying they're averse to Nightblood for the same rationales as for other Blades. There is a plethora of reasons to be wary of Nightblood.

[Karger he/him]

When should he use it?  He did not finalize his oath until after the battle was over.

[RShara she/her]

4 hours ago, Bzhydack said:

So, Szeth at the end of Oathbringer is 3Ideal Skybreaker, bonded with Highspren. He sworn not to use Nightblood in second part of Battle on Thaylen Fields. But why he dont use his Shardblade? 3d Ideal is standard for other Orders to gain Shardblade, is this different for Skybreakers?

I don't remember him swearing not to use NB in the second part of the battle? He might have decided not to, since it almost killed him a few minutes before...

He doesn't swear the Third Oath until after the battle and everything, so he didn't really get a chance to use it. He probably could summon it now, but it would not surprise me if his spren is a little wary of Nightblood.

[+Bzhydack he/him]

4 hours ago, RShara said:

I don't remember him swearing not to use NB in the second part of the battle? He might have decided not to, since it almost killed him a few minutes before...

He was talking to Lift. Something like "I will not use sword until you will be dead and i decide to Die" (sorry, i cant quote literaly)

[RShara she/her]

That didn't really sound like an oath to me. Merely a statement of how dangerous the sword is and that he didn't plan to draw it again.

[+Krox he/him]

The accepted oath is sworn after the battle (https://coppermind.net/wiki/Szeth#Aftermath), but we do not know at what ideal Skybreakers get their blade as far as I can find!

Quote

Kythis

Is there a specific number of the ideals that they have to do before they can get the Shardblade?  

Brandon Sanderson

It depends on the Order.

Words of Radiance Omaha signing (March 13, 2014)

 

I also think I saw a WoB that stated Nightblood can kill Spren, so no wonder they are worried about it..!

Edited July 17, 2020 by Krox