Elsecaller_17.5 he/him Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 They confuse me. Diamonds, emeralds, rubies, etc require very extreme conditions to form. Conditions not present inside of animals. The obvious solution seems to be that they're really not the various gems chemically. More like multicolored, translucent pearls. Are there any glaring errors in my thinking?
Karger he/him Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Elsecaller_17.5 said: They confuse me. Diamonds, emeralds, rubies, etc require very extreme conditions to form. Conditions not present inside of animals. The obvious solution seems to be that they're really not the various gems chemically. More like multicolored, translucent pearls. They are in fact exactly what they are said to be but they do not form naturally. Excess investiture in the rosharan system appears as gemhearts in animals on Roshar.
Eternal Khol he/him Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Karger said: They are in fact exactly what they are said to be but they do not form naturally. Excess investiture in the rosharan system appears as gemhearts in animals on Roshar. It also has to do with the crem in the water giving them the minerals or whatever to form them
NameIess Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Elsecaller_17.5 said: They confuse me. Diamonds, emeralds, rubies, etc require very extreme conditions to form. Conditions not present inside of animals. The obvious solution seems to be that they're really not the various gems chemically. More like multicolored, translucent pearls. Are there any glaring errors in my thinking? They form naturally: Quote Questioner Where do gemhearts come from? Brandon Sanderson They grow naturally, just like your fingernails grow. Questioner Where do they get the resources? Brandon Sanderson The rain that falls on Roshar is [hard] water, full of crem that crystalizes. If you drink that water, it gives you the nutrients that you need to make gemhearts. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/402/#e13335 1
Karger he/him Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Nameless said: They form naturally: Quote Oathbringer London signing (Nov. 28, 2017) #7 Share Copy Play/Pause Overlord Jebus So you've previously described gemhearts as Investiture leaking into the Physical Realm in a similar kind of process to atium. Now atium had a way of-- the Investiture used in the creation of it-- of returning back to the kind of background pool of Investiture on Scadrial. Is there a way of the Investiture used in the creation of gemhearts to return to the Roshar Investiture pool? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Overlord Jebus There is? Have we had any hints of it at all? Brandon Sanderson Quote A Memory of Light Milford Signing (Feb. 16, 2013) #17 Share Copy Viper (paraphrased) The gemhearts/stormgems/whatever that are grown inside the beasts in Way of Kings ... is that the same as the way atium is grown inside geodes in the Pits of Hathsin? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It's similar. The Pits are an area where there's like a leak from the Spiritual Realm into the Physical. That's what happens there. 1
NameIess Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 @Karger the WoB that I posted is more recent than the ones that you posted. It is from 2019. 1
Karger he/him Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Nameless said: the WoB that I posted is more recent than the ones that you posted. It is from 2019. They are not directly contradictory. The investiture could use raw materials to help it manifest appropriately. Secondly the first WoB does not make sense from a chemical perspective. The creation of a diamond requires extream enough conditions to sterilize. This means that any biological mechanism should destroy itself. 1
NameIess Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Karger said: They are not directly contradictory. The investiture could use raw materials to help it manifest appropriately. Secondly the first WoB does not make sense from a chemical perspective. The creation of a diamond requires extream enough conditions to sterilize. This means that any biological mechanism should destroy itself. That makes sense. Although Brandon comparing it to fingernails growing seems a little odd if investiture is involved.
Karger he/him Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Nameless said: That makes sense. Although Brandon comparing it to fingernails growing seems a little odd if investiture is involved. I think personally that this is a reference to the speed at which they grow and the fact that the body can produce hard stuff. 1
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