Hello

[ctonicmenace]

Hello, people.
My name is ctonicmenace, I like all things evil and am a huge fan of Sanderson. Would love to read a book from him from the point of view of the villain.

[Karger he/him]

Welcome!  Which works have you read/enjoyed?

[ctonicmenace]

I have read most of his works. Haven't gotten to Legion or Rithmatist yet, but I will pick it up eventually.

[+Invocation]

2 hours ago, ctonicmenace said:

Would love to read a book from him from the point of view of the villain.

In a way, that's what Mistborn was (at least the first book).

Edited January 27, 2020 by Invocation

[Honorless he/him]

Have you heard of the Dark One?

[Aon Tia she/her]

1 hour ago, Invocation said:

In a way, that's what Mistborn was (at least the first book).

Hmm I don’t really think that Kelsier in book 1 counts as a villain. 
Welcome to the shard @ctonicmenace 

[Karger he/him]

We have seen perspectives from Amaram, Moash, Sadeas, Taravangain, and Lin.

[+Invocation]

Just now, The Traveller said:

Hmm I don’t really think that Kelsier in book 1 counts as a villain. 

I mean...he kind of does. He might be a protagonist, but he's not a good person, and if he wasn't overshadowed by the particular combination of TLR and a larger rebellion that made him into a better person in our view. 

He's really not a good person.

[Aon Tia she/her]

10 minutes ago, Invocation said:

He’s really not a good person.

Agreed but what I was trying to say is, we, as a reader, do not really realise that while we read TFE. 
This concern is raised by his crew members and we do begin to question his intentions, but by then he went and got himself killed. Which is both extremely selfless of him, I mean he got himself killed, but also selfish because he literally started a religion in his name! 
 

His sacrifice, which restored my faith in his goodness at the end of TFE was Undermined by him when he chose not to pass on, my faith in his goodness was shattered when I read Secret History. That is when i realised that ok, he is not exactly a good person either. 
 

Basically yes, he is one of those bad people who luckily for everyone were on the good side. 

Edited January 27, 2020 by The Traveller

[+Invocation]

1 minute ago, The Traveller said:

Agreed but what I was trying to say is, we, as a reader, do not really realise that while we read TFE. 

You may not have, but his vibes were rancid the entirety of the first book for me, and the Square Executions just reinforced those vibes. SH came as no surprise to me, with no need to reevaluate his personality. Maybe it's a personal thing? I don't know.

[Aon Tia she/her]

6 minutes ago, Invocation said:

You may not have, but his vibes were rancid the entirety of the first book for me, and the Square Executions just reinforced those vibes. SH came as no surprise to me, with no need to reevaluate his personality. Maybe it's a personal thing? I don't know.

I did not realise these things in TFE to be honest 

I still don’t see him as entirely evil. He is a bit whacky but he is also shown to be loyal towards his crew, trusts them and they trust him. He helped Vin, shared full information with her about her powers and gains her trust, becomes her mentor. He wants to help so many downtrodden skaa and TLR does come across as pure evil in TFE. 
I agree that he put Vin in danger but he seemed genuinely regretful of that too. 
I don’t know, I saw him as a brilliant crazy fellow kind of someone on the line there, but someone who is basically good because his goals are for the good. 
 

But I see where you are at with him as a villain after SH, so kuddos to you for seeing it from the beginning 

Edited January 27, 2020 by The Traveller

[Honorless he/him]

1 hour ago, Karger said:

We have seen perspectives from Amaram, Moash, Sadeas, Taravangain, and Lin.

Stormlight does sort of count, doesn't it? But it's still more seeing from the perspectives of both sides of the conflict rather than a single credible villain as a point-of-view character

On that note, Dragonsteel might count, when it comes out

[Aon Tia she/her]

20 minutes ago, Honorless said:

Dragonsteel might count, when it comes out

Is he a villain or is he a good person? I am worried that I might not like the answers I will get when it does come out!!

[Honorless he/him]

Huh, I'm completely against calling Kelsier 'evil', whatever tendencies he has are a product of his time and truly horrendous amount of trauma

[+Ark1002]

Hi! @ctonicmenace how interested would you be in an RP or a guild?

[ctonicmenace]

On 29/01/2020 at 9:45 PM, Ark1002 said:

Hi! @ctonicmenace how interested would you be in an RP or a guild?

I would be most interested in both.

[ctonicmenace]

On 27/01/2020 at 0:03 AM, Honorless said:

Have you heard of the Dark One?

I have and I'm really excited. Brandon is such a talented writer and he explores his novels' topics so well. I'm with high expectations for this show.