High prince of geeks he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Due to the fact that the powers Alomancy gives you, and as mentioned in other forums can become nearly addicting I can sea a lot of weird ways being used to get the mettles in you body snuffing it and the such. I'm counting on the dark depths of the internet to help me with more ideas.
Kurkistan he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Is this what you're asking? Source: 2:57:56 Q. Several of my friends play the Mistborn tabletop game, and we have a question, so, if you want to burn a metal Allomantically do you actually have to ingest it, or can it just be in your bloodstream, or-? A. If it gets in there somehow, you can use it. Q. So you can inhale something, or inject something … what about spikes? Could you like burn a spike that was-? A. Yes, you could, but not if it’s Hemalurgically placed or Hemalurgically charged. But otherwise yes. If it gets in you--I almost wrote a scene where someone got stabbed through the chest and they burned it. The problem is your metal also has to be of the right allomantic alloy. 1
Gamma Fiend he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Ugh. I thought snorting gunpowder in Brian McClellan's Promise of Blood sounded painful enough.... but snorting powdered metal?*shudders*But I do think 'addiction' to metals could play a role in future books, like how people can become savants to a metal if they're constantly burning it, and then require a constant supply.Also, when comparing Allomantic metals to drugs just makes me imagine shady dealers standing on the corners slinging impure alloys. The phrase 'nickel bag' takes on a whole new meaning...
thecatinthehat Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 What if you injected water with metal flakes into your bloodstream using a Hemalurgically charged needle placed in a suitable Hemalurgic point? Could you burn the metal even if you are not the Misting / Mistborn?
Aether he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 As long as the needle stays in, I would assume so, yes. Remove it and lose the ability, though.
Khyrindor he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) that would be cool. that could be a thing in hospitals, giving a Feruchemical gold and Allomantic gold, to get you to heal. but then they would have to kill a person to get it... (or leave them partially soulless.) *Don't ask Swimmingly, it gets scary...* EDIT: What Hemalurgic Metal could steal allomantic gold? (I looked on the Coppermind) Edited May 23, 2014 by Khyrindor 2
Curiosity he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) I think that Atium is the only one that we know of that can steal temporal powers. There could be other metals (lerasium or atium alloys, perhaps) that could steal Allomantic temporal powers, we just don't know yet. Atium has been confirmed as the "trump card" of Hemalurgy, able to steal any trait possible within the scope of the art. Edit: that would be cool. that could be a thing in hospitals, giving a Feruchemical gold and Allomantic gold, to get you to heal. but then they would have to kill a person to get it... (or leave them partially soulless.) *Don't ask Swimmingly, it gets scary...* That… despite the cost, could be pretty cool! Makes me think that the king of Kharbaranth would do something like that… Edited May 23, 2014 by Curiosity
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 We don't know anything yet that can steal Temporal Powers, but I very much doubt it's a God Metal Alloy. All the other allomantic abilities of the main 16 are stolen by one of the metals in their respective block, so the same should apply to temporal ones. We only know 1 of the Hemalurgic powers stolen by metals in the temporal block, so there's still three metals there as candidates for stealing temporal allomancy. Judging by the patterns of the other abilities, I'd guess hElectrum.
Kurkistan he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 So far as needing EVIL!!! to steal Allomantic gold/Feruchemical gold using Hemalurgy: maybe not... It all depends on whether Feruchemical gold can heal back spiked-out powers. If it can, then you can get infinite quantities of any power, really, so long as you start off with at least a Gold twinborn.
Khyrindor he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Hmmmm. If aluminum savants can rid themselves of impurity, would chromium savants be able to do the same to other people? Because that would be an awesome doctor. Just had some awesome ideas for jury rigging! If you gave something a breath, could you spike powers onto it?
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Hmmmm. If aluminum savants can rid themselves of impurity, would chromium savants be able to do the same to other people? Because that would be an awesome doctor. Just had some awesome ideas for jury rigging! If you gave something a breath, could you spike powers onto it? Hah, great minds think alike. IMO, an Allomantic chromium/Feruchemical tin twinborn is the perfect Scadrian doctor– Feruchemical tin for diagnosis, Allomantic chromium for removing poisons, infections, lodged bits of material in wounds, etc.
Khyrindor he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Could an aluminum savant rid themselves of spikes?
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I'm not sure if Spikes count as foreign any more. Once you receive one, it becomes a part of your Spiritweb. So whatever mechanism that checks for part of me/not part of me might just breeze past it. Same way Feruchemical gold probably wouldn't just eject your Spikes.
Moogle Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Could an aluminum savant rid themselves of spikes? Aluminum Mistings can't even receive spikes, to go by the MAG. (I may be wrong on this.) But if they could, I imagine it would depend on whether or not they consider the spikes part of them. Edited May 23, 2014 by Moogle
thecatinthehat Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 that would be cool. that could be a thing in hospitals, giving a Feruchemical gold and Allomantic gold, to get you to heal. but then they would have to kill a person to get it... (or leave them partially soulless.) *Don't ask Swimmingly, it gets scary...* EDIT: What Hemalurgic Metal could steal allomantic gold? (I looked on the Coppermind) Could such a needle be reused many times? Or would it just decay?
BreathTaker he/him Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Could such a needle be reused many times? Or would it just decay? Eww. Just... Ew. 1
Cstryon he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Stealing the sharps container can be a real problem....
Khyrindor he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) It would probably be reused, because whatever infections you get, you would be able to heal. The only downside I see to this is someone who is too sick to drain healing into it. They would need some pewter compounding as well. Edited May 24, 2014 by Khyrindor
Kurkistan he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Nah, all you need is some shared compounding and you don't have to worry about anyone suffering from putting in the initial health. Edited May 24, 2014 by Kurkistan
High prince of geeks he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Author Posted May 24, 2014 Personally I always thought being soothed or rioted constantly would be like being on drugs.
BreathTaker he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 DOES NO ONE GET HOW EW THAT WAS? (I'm a germaphobe with stuff like that. I cam eat a sandwich with my hands covered in jet fuel and grease and be mostly fine but stuff like ^^ that, makes my skin crawl.)
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Yeah but it heals everything so even if it gets infected, meh, healed.
Khyrindor he/him Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) I would agree its gross, if you didn't just heal it. If only the world were so simple that you get injected with someone's powers, then swallow a lump of gold and BAM, instant healing. Its worth the 'sharing of needles', IMO. I guess that people would need to give written permission for this, but it all depends on whether or not you can reuse spikes. If you can't it gets a tad expensive, but worth the cost, especially if you have a Gold Compounder who is willing to be impaled every few hours. If he can heal back his powers. New problem though. Now we need a Trueself (Feruchemical aluminum) to be spiked... but you could just heal it back with that compounded spike, so nevermind. If only Miles was not evil... EDIT: I realize we've kind of hijacked your thread, Highprince. Do you want me to start a new one, or do you not mind? It is kind of related... Edited May 24, 2014 by Khyrindor
Pathfinder Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 My main problem with this, is it doesn't make much sense if you think about it. The whole purpose of snorting, or in-taking the drug by a means other than ingestion is to affect the potency of the affect. Once upon a time I attended a festival or two, and one guy I met talked nonchalantly of using another orifice of the body to "ingest" a drug because it goes straight into the blood stream to increase the strength of his high. The WoB referenced does not give me any indication that by snorting it, or using that "other means" would result in a net gain of power of the allomantic metal. Also as it has been mentioned, snorting is NOT a pleasant experience. In fact all other means that I know of to take in a drug other than orally tend to be rather unpleasant. So if you are not really gaining anything from the experience, why would you do it? On the other hand, I could totally see people doing something to the effect of Wax and his whiskey. If you are downing an alcoholic solution, why not make it some good stuff? I could see allomantic "drug" dealers, offering their wares in sugar pills, soft drinks (which coca cola used to contain actual coke since it was originally medicinal), or smoothies.
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