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I think I know the remaining six shard names - and I can justify why


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Huh, I've only ever seen predicting the remaining Shards theories using the 16 Metals model or what might be considered as godly attributes. Hmm... the Ten Heralds/Radiant Orders/Essences model contains 10 (or 20) rather than 16 characteristics. Regardless, intriguing work, @Halyo_Alex!

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@Ixthos  One could also argue that Vengeance is a possible combination of Justice and Odium (passion).  There are many different lenses one could view these things with.  Also, Justice is not always honorable.  What about vigilante justice?  This may or may not be vengeance-related, if you live in a country where the courts do not work for the people.

As for Scholarship vs. Ingenuity, I see scholarship as gaining external information, as you say (or external pulling, as some would categorize it; I'm thinking here of researching, university types, aka Khriss), where the ultimate goal is truth.  Ingenuity I see more from an "invention / creation" point of view, more in line with your "crafting" as a shard idea (internal pulling, as the ideas come from within).  The difference would be, Ingenuity is more Cognitive based, where Crafting is more Physical.

 

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2 minutes ago, phoenix2563 said:

@Ixthos  One could also argue that Vengeance is a possible combination of Justice and Odium (passion).  There are many different lenses one could view these things with.

As for Scholarship vs. Ingenuity, I see scholarship as gaining external information, as you say (or external pulling, as some would categorize it; I'm thinking here of researching, university types, aka Khriss), where the ultimate goal is truth.  Ingenuity I see more from an "invention / creation" point of view, more in line with your "crafting" as a shard idea (internal pulling, as the ideas come from within).  The difference would be, Ingenuity is more Cognitive based, where Crafting is more Physical.

 

Fair enough :-) though I chose Vengeance to fill that grid because Mercy matched the other, with Devotion and Dominion being dynamics in a functioning relationship, and Mercy and Vengeance as dynamics in a damaged one. Yet they are not fully incompatable, and so can connect. Basically I think they match a grid based on the nature of their goals and how they go about them, compared to what and how they act and think.

Though on Crafting, or Forging, I think that all the shards abilities touch all three, but Crafting is matching an ideal of giving of yourself, so both crafting and teaching, and so would be both physical and cognitive. Basically in the Chaos, the right way block I think they correspond to warm mentor and teacher roles, or motherly roles, wanting things to grow and move beyond them but taking a structured approach to helping. Ingenuity could definitly work as a "forge diety" like Crafting too, though, and fit that role.

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