Young Bard he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 OK, I wasn't expecting to be alive this round. No, I was in Poco-3. I'm not sure why it doesn't also mention that my shields are down? I IMP'd 2D, which I assume is still alive, because the Krell Ship that attacked me and also lost it's shields, 1F, was specifically mentioned as having been destroyed. Which means that @Lumgol didn't fire at 2D like they said they would in thread? I'll drop a vote on Sart, since I feel some of their phrasing sounds like an Eliminator trying to position themselves as a villager. Particularly this post: Quote We need to lynch Gunners, before more of us get shot out of the sky. I'm voting on Stick. I'm always in favor of a Day 1 lynch, and him being so happy about not having one seemed off. 'We need to lynch Gunners'? That feels like a sneaky way of trying to sneak in the assumption that Sart is a villager without anyone thinking too much. On top of that, the statement is a fairly obvious one, contributing basically nothing we don't already know.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Elandera said: "Gunner turrets can do 10 damage, more than enough to take down a whole one of our ships, shield and all. That's what happened to Yaw(n), after all. But I think the gunners are staying safe, only attacking one of us at a time. Any more, and it'd be too easy to see where the shots are coming from." Rules-wise, elims are only allowed to target one pilot a night, but that attack will go through unless roleblocked by a light lance, as far as I understand. So I'm under the impression the person who submitted the action was roleblocked, or they didn't submit a kill at all. I find the latter most unusual, seeing as everyone submitted at least one action. Our shields will absorb 1 hit, regardless of how much damage. So no matter what, we have to be hit by 2 things to die assuming our shields are up. this includes the elim kill. I think I asked that in-thread? Edited May 30, 2019 by Furamirionind
Elandera she/her Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: Our shields will absorb 1 hit, regardless of how much damage. So no matter what, we have to be hit by 2 things to die assuming our shields are up. this includes the elim kill. I think I asked that in-thread? I asked last turn what happens to excess damage to clarify if the Largos with 4 destructors could 1-shot the damaged Krell. This was Steel's response: Also, this is from the rules, stating it is a night kill that inflicts 10 damage. Quote Eliminators: Gunners/Rebels- the rebels win if they can outnumber the pilots and kill the defected if applicable, without being destroyed by the Krell. They have access to different night abilities to use against the Krell than the Pilots, and have access to a night kill against a pilot that inflicts 10 damage on the target. Quote The first attack against a ship will destroy its shields, no matter how much damage it does. From what I understand from the rules is that even though the Krell shields count as 3 damage, if it is hit, it's gone. That means if a Poco hits a target first, even though it only has the ability to do 2 damage total, the shields are removed and a total of 3 damage is taken away. @Steeldancer, can you confirm? Edited May 30, 2019 by Elandera Clarification and completing thoughts
Elandera she/her Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 I'm so confused... So our shields work differently from the Krell shields. And the Gunners basically have to rely on luck in order to successfully carry out a kill at night. That seems... strange.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Drake Marshall, I find your post suspicious. For one, you're casting suspicion on 2 of gut village reads, and two, mostly what Furamirionind said in response to your vote on her makes a lot more sense than what you said. also, speicofalically, the line about keping his hands clean in the last court martial makes no sense. I don't remember too many people are voting on the same person. I remember lots of random one of votes. There hasn't been much information to go off of, so lots of.people.are afraid to commit to a lynch. I don't think I've even voted yet.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Elandera said: Why was it you were certain Rivelda isn't a rebel gunner? That'd be 'cause she light lanced me, thus accidentally hard-clearing herself. Also because I had a very good read on her afore that. Also because what with rumors about her bein' able to one-shot a Krell, combined with the fact she was usin' a light lance on the first day, I figured she must be an ace pilot. I'm thinkin' those were all honkin' good reasons to not kick Rivelda outta the DDF, even if it meant not kickin' anybody out, savvy? 1 hour ago, Furamirionind said: You suspect Rebels are flying under the radar due to low post counts? Well, Elandera and I both have been posting. I admit I didn't much over the weekend, but that's cause I am in the production crew of a show, and my theater has no data connection. : / I know I already went into detail about this in past turns. Also, flying under the radar, is just not something I do. It's no fun. Look... 10 posts above. I literally orchestrated an entire system on how we can repair our ships effectively, and not give any info to you on who the Squad Leader is. I tagged every living player in the game, and asked them to give their thoughts. If anything, that is sticking myself in the center of the conversation, not avoiding it. Your thing about me not voting on a main lynch... Honestly, I don't remember why i was voting on Sart. I think it was mainly as I trust Bard, and didn't feel like lynching Stick. But That's about as good as I can remember. Also, what distancing between Elandera and me? we have generally been agreeing on a lot of stuff? I have a village lean towards her right now just because of how much we have been mindmelding. Hmm, if my life depended on making a town core right now, I would unabashedly put Bard and Elandera in it. Hows that for distancing? : P The first half of this is sayin' you're not inactive, which I agrees with you on. I'm sayin' probably there's a number of rebs that aren't active. I'm not sayin' you're one of those ones. I wouldn't want to court martial an inactive, 'cause hittin' the right one would just be blind luck, an' I think we can do better than blind luck. As for the second half, you don't feel you're distancin' yourself from either the votin' or from Brenna. Well, the last round of votin' is pretty much all I have to go by, I'm expectin' at least some of the rebs to be wantin' to stay distanced from a close vote between two innocent pilots, an' you fit the bill better than anybody else. As for not distancin' Brenna, it don't count as "not distancin" if you do it after somebody accuses you of distancin', silly Show me where yous agreed before an' I'll reconsider but I don't recall seein' that go down. 15 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said: Drake Marshall, I find your post suspicious. For one, you're casting suspicion on 2 of gut village reads, and two, mostly what Furamirionind said in response to your vote on her makes a lot more sense than what you said. also, speicofalically, the line about keping his hands clean in the last court martial makes no sense. I don't remember too many people are voting on the same person. I remember lots of random one of votes. There hasn't been much information to go off of, so lots of.people.are afraid to commit to a lynch. I don't think I've even voted yet. So yous suspectin' me of bein' a reb 'cause you disagree with my logic? That's a line of reasonin' I've never much understood, to be honest. Most of the folks what didn't commit to votes weren't too active in the first place. The subset of active pilots that also didn't commit to court martialin' somebody is considerably smaller, an' more statistically significant. Right, good chat. That should be my repairs work on yonder poco for the day, so I'm gonna hit the sack. Next scheduled easter bunny apocalypse is in 42 hours. What the storms am I doing with my life, that I am in a position to say those words and have it make some modicum of sense. 1
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 I'm putting my vote on Sart, based upon all prior messages and the fact Sart seems to be ignoring anything referring to him- as if just because he's not the focus of discussion he can hide in the shadows. I still stand by my belief that he really hasn't contributed much to the game and if anything has just been a broken record. I didn't really read this thread that well- just got back from Canberra and I have an art assignment due tomorrow (yay). But I should mention that I was piloting Poco-4 as Poco-1 had taken too much damage for me to risk flying her. And indeed, I assume someone used an IMB on me since my shields were blown. Perhaps @Furamirionind targeted the krell/me? Maybe he's Elim and he masked targeting me with an IMB with a claim that he was targetting the krell but was actually preparing the way for a Gunner to shoot me down while my shields were down. Maybe someone saved me. Maybe I should be thanking someone. That someone, I thank you. But also that's just a theory- a game theory. Right now here's my v sus list: Sart, Furamirionind (did I spel that right xD) and Joe in the bush (I'll talk about Joe when I get a chance to) But yeah I'll look through the thread again tomorrow night and give some solid analysis.
Steeldancer he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 Krell shields and human shields do work differently. Krell shields act as extra health that disappears if you use an IMP and regenerates if they return. Human shields act as a 1 hit absorption.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Also I targetted 1-B last night but...apparently I destroyed 2-B? I'm not sure what 2B is, did the names change based on the turn? EDIT: Okay nvm turned out I just got redirected and hadn't seen a ship called 2B before. I'm assuming Fura destroyed the ship I was targetting before I did meaning they have a ship faster than a Poco... Edited May 30, 2019 by Darkness Ascendant
+Ark1002 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: I also destroyed 2B... not 1B 6 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said: Also I targetted 1-B last night but...apparently I destroyed 2-B? I'm not sure what 2B is, did the names change based on the turn? EDIT: Okay nvm turned out I just got redirected and hadn't seen a ship called 2B before. I'm assuming Fura destroyed the ship I was targetting before I did meaning they have a ship faster than a Poco... One of you have to be lying here. This makes me suspect one of you is an elim. Therefore, I will place my vote on Fura. No reason I didn't choose DA, besides a gut read
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ark1002 said: One of you have to be lying here. This makes me suspect one of you is an elim. Therefore, I will place my vote on Fura. No reason I didn't choose DA, besides a gut read First of all, I dont understand why one of us has to be lying. Either we, or our damage was redirected. I wonder if 1B is still alive... Also, I claimed to have shot down 1B a while ago. Before DA did. I didnt even realize that wasnt the ship I submitted my action for...
+Ark1002 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, Furamirionind said: First of all, I dont understand why one of us has to be lying. Either we, or our damage was redirected. I wonder if 1B is still alive... Also, I claimed to have shot down 1B a while ago. Before DA did. I didnt even realize that wasnt the ship I submitted my action for... DA had some suspicion of you as well. That's why I'm placing vote on you. I'm gonna do some analysis, maybe change that vote.
Steeldancer he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 Clarification: if your action led to the ship you targeted being destroyed, you are informed of that fact. You do not have to be the one who actually targeted the ship last in order to get that message.
Steeldancer he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ark1002 said: I don't really understand that clarification. If multiple people shot destructors at a single target and it was destroyed, they will all receive the message that they destroyed the target. The way I chose to send out these results wasn't in the rules, so I felt I should clarify how I sent them out. Edited May 30, 2019 by Steeldancer
xxGaea They/Them, Fae/Faer Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Sart said: I'll add that 2C was destroyed. I'll place a vote for Gaea. They've been too quiet this game. Although it could be a feint, I'm more suspicious of people with lower activity levels right now, because the Gunners forgot to submit a kill. That type of miscommunication might have happened due to a low activity player checking in to the doc, and then their teammates assumed that the player could submit a kill. That's wild speculation, but I don't have much else to go off of right now. I am around....kind of. Originally I was taking an indefinite hiatus from SE games because I just don't have the energy to put into the games. But this is Steel's last game before he leaves for two years, so I didn't want to miss out. I've been trying to at least check in on the thread once a day, but I haven't really been able to mentally keep up with what is actually happening, so I don't have any real leads. Since inactivity hurts us, I have been making sure to submit night actions to attack the Krell, since I don't want to be so much of a liability. I apologize for being so quiet, but I don't quite know what to do about that to help, as I can't make any guarantees of an increased activity in thread, but I will try. 2
Steeldancer he/him Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 Quick note: the turn is 24 hours longer because I'm busy tonight, just to make sure no one is confused when I don't close the turn at 8 tonight.
Lumgol she/her Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Alright. I'll admit that I am kinda having trouble keeping up with what's happening, having joined late and all that. So far, all that I've been able to keep up with are the mechanics of the ships and the Krell. I'll try to catch up and pay closer attention soon.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Lumgol said: Alright. I'll admit that I am kinda having trouble keeping up with what's happening, having joined late and all that. So far, all that I've been able to keep up with are the mechanics of the ships and the Krell. I'll try to catch up and pay closer attention soon. You're farther caught up than me then. : P
Elandera she/her Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lumgol said: Alright. I'll admit that I am kinda having trouble keeping up with what's happening, having joined late and all that. So far, all that I've been able to keep up with are the mechanics of the ships and the Krell. I'll try to catch up and pay closer attention soon. Good thing we have some extra time then Hopefully tonight I'll have some time to look at the past turns, especially the voting D2, to see what I can find. Also, now learning the elim kill is pretty much just chance, I'm willing to give a soft clear to the people who were okay with no lynch D1. I feel elims might push harder for that than others.
+Ark1002 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Steeldancer said: If multiple people shot destructors at a single target and it was destroyed, they will all receive the message that they destroyed the target. The way I chose to send out these results wasn't in the rules, so I felt I should clarify how I sent them out. Thank you for the clarification clarification
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Furamirionind said: Also, I claimed to have shot down 1B a while ago. Before DA did. I didnt even realize that wasnt the ship I submitted my action for... When?? I can't find a single post of you talking about targeting and shooting down 1b? And Shooting down?? It never went down my dude, clearly, it didn't. Sart still seems to be inactive and at this point I'd rather lynch Fura and see what information can be gathered from there and then move on. Furamirionind
Walin he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Oh...whoops. I thought the cycle was just about to end, so I PM'ed before reading the writeup. I'll see you all tomorrow with some actual activity. ---------------- Ildem woke up. By the looks of the lights, he had slept until well past noon. No doubt, others had tried to wake him but left when he continued sleeping. It seemed that the food he ate at his cousin's house was...not as well sanitized as advertised. I knew I should have refused the fruits when they were given! Bellen always cooks or buys pre-cooked food, refusing to rinse anything beforehand. Sighing, he got up and started walking to the cafetaria. If it was noon, lunch would be served, and he could get a chance to sneak in without being seen. Pointedly avoiding looking at the clocks on the wall, not wanting a reminder of his tardiness, he peeked his head around the corner to the cafeteria--finding no one there. Turning around, he saw what he should have expected, and for a brief moment he saw his life flash before his eyes. And 2 hours later, with his ego crushed, he went back to bed with everyone else.
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