Karger he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 The Nahel bond allows Radiants access to shardblades and shardplate. Shardplate seems pretty uniform but I blades have done all kinds of things. We have seen shardspears shardknifes shardshields. What are your ideas for how plate and blade could be used. Does Shardplate have offense and deference forms? How about some kind of workform? Would shardsarrows work? What about a shardbow? Can more complicated shards be made like shardcrossbows or shardguns? Any answers?
Calderis he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) More complicated is pretty much a no. Quote Questioner *cant be heard* Brandon Sanderson The way it works in my head canon right now, which I haven't written it so if it changes, no. The other thing is getting complex systems is going to be harder for a lot of Spren. There are legends that reference that they were able to do bows in the past, which includes a string. Everyone is like "but they're not metal, how does that work." Complex structures, even the mechanics of a pen is not something that we have proof that they could even do. If they did do it, they wouldn't *brandon stumbling over his words*. Footnote: The question was likely about if Shardbows could existBarnes & Noble B-Fest 2016 (June 11, 2016) As to shards I'd like to see (because as we've discussed I think arrows would be fairly pointless) is a chakram. You take a chakram that is as relatively oversized as shardblades are and you get a bladed ring roughly 2-4 feet in diameter. A shardplate assisted throw would mow through anything in its path burning out eyes and deadening limbs, and then you just summon it back and repeat. Chakram is best ranged shard, in my opinion. Edit: autocorrect is stupid... Edited March 13, 2019 by Calderis 3
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Archangel from the X-men's wings (the Adamantium ones that Apocalypse gave him), just because. I also still stand by my Shard hamster bubble.
Karger he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Author Posted March 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Calderis said: composted Complicated?
Karger he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Author Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: Shard hamster bubble Shardplate is not indestructible but I do wonder if you could sacrifice the mobility and some power for more weight? Also how would you see where you are going?
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Karger said: Shardplate is not indestructible but I do wonder if you could sacrifice the mobility and some power for more weight? Also how would you see where you are going? Oh you mistake me, the armor wouldn't make the bubble, the blade would. Near as I can tell, Shardblades are indestructible. A bubble formed from one should protect you from almost anything.
Karger he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Author Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: Oh you mistake me, the armor wouldn't make the bubble, the blade would. Near as I can tell, Shardblades are indestructible. A bubble formed from one should protect you from almost anything. As you suffocate. Also if a thunderclast kicks the ball you will still die from the transmitted force
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Karger said: As you suffocate. Also if a thunderclast kicks the ball you will still die from the transmitted force If you can summon a blade, you don't need to breathe, you have Stormlight. Same goes for the minor blunt trauma of getting tossed around. Edited March 13, 2019 by SwordNimiForPresident
Karger he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Author Posted March 13, 2019 You also can't do anything to help anyone which is kind of what being Radiant is about...
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Karger said: You also can't do anything to help anyone which is kind of what being Radiant is about... Tell that to Malata. Also, you could easily Soulcast or Lightweave from inside the bubble. I'd say that swinging around a sword is one of the Radiant's least useful abilities. You could also put someone else in it to protect them. Edited March 13, 2019 by SwordNimiForPresident
+Invocation Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: Tell that to Malata. Also, you could easily Soulcast or Lightweave from inside the bubble. I'd say that swinging around a sword is one of the Radiant's least useful abilities. You could also put someone else in it to protect them. Would you be able to Soulcast from inside it? That seems like it would be difficult.
Calderis he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: If you can summon a blade, you don't need to breathe, you have Stormlight. Same goes for the minor blunt trauma of getting tossed around. You don't need stormlight to summon a blade. And healing eats your stormlight. 25 minutes ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: Tell that to Malata. Also, you could easily Soulcast or Lightweave from inside the bubble. I'd say that swinging around a sword is one of the Radiant's least useful abilities. You could also put someone else in it to protect them. We know nothing about Malata's goals or oaths. I don't agree ith the "Radiant = good" statements jn the slightest, but I also don't agree that Malata isn't trying to help anyone. She clearly appears to be trying to help Spark at the least. As far as the blade being the "least useful" goes... It doesn't have to be a weapon. You could make it a ladder or a tool of some sort... And even without that a blade, in whatever edged form. You choose, is probably still your best bet VS a Thunderclast. Shard weapons/tools/defenses are immensely versatile, and I don't think we've scratched the surface of what they can be used for. Especially considering times where Surges aren't an option, like mid-weeping.
Karger he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Author Posted March 13, 2019 Can you soulcast through a shardbubble? Will the spren not interfere?
Quantus he/him Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Karger said: Can you soulcast through a shardbubble? Will the spren not interfere? Probably not, at least not without overpowering it with prohibitively huge amounts of power (as in sliver/shard levels). The Plate provides an Identity-based protection, which is why you cant lash through somebody elses Plate but you can penetrate your own. Presumably it block the other surges in the same way. EDIT: Oh wait, you are talking about a bubble made of the blade, not Plate. Hmm, I think that would still have a similar effect, since the Nahel Bond is a merging of the radiant and spren into a single being at the Spiritweb level, their Identities would likely be blended enough to not offer resistance/interference. Edited March 13, 2019 by Quantus
Philomath she/her Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Calderis said: Shard weapons/tools/defenses are immensely versatile, and I don't think we've scratched the surface of what they can be used for. Especially considering times where Surges aren't an option, like mid-weeping. I have a head cannon that Lift’s/Wyndle’s “Shardfork” is going to actually be a shard trident come the back half and she has grown up more. (I wanted to put something like that in the cosmere memes but don’t know how to make them. A what we think it is/what it actually is.)
Pathfinder Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Philomath said: I have a head cannon that Lift’s/Wyndle’s “Shardfork” is going to actually be a shard trident come the back half and she has grown up more. (I wanted to put something like that in the cosmere memes but don’t know how to make them. A what we think it is/what it actually is.) Here you go! AndrewHB (Paraphrased) <I asked if, in the future, he would have Lift use a trident as her main Shard weapon.> Brandon Sanderson There may very well be a trident in the upcoming book. 2
Philomath she/her Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Pathfinder said: Here you go! AndrewHB (Paraphrased) <I asked if, in the future, he would have Lift use a trident as her main Shard weapon.> Brandon Sanderson There may very well be a trident in the upcoming book. Ha ha! I had not seen that WoB before. That is awesome. Thanks.
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