Thanatos Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Has anyone asked Brandon what Adonalsium looked like when it was alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 That’s two questions. What did it look like & was it alive? I can’t help but wonder if it was non sentient & they shattered it so that they could use its power in a directed fashion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) You would definitely get a RAFO on what Adonalsium looked like so there's little point in anyone asking. @SwordNimiForPresident We can infer that Adonalsium was 'alive' in some way because its death is what caused the Shattering. This is probably much closer to what Syl has to say about how one can only sort of kill a spren than what we'd think of as life and death (especially given that Brandon's said that the Shattering meant 'everything and nothing' to Investiture) but it does require that Adonalsium have been alive in some sense for the first WoB to have any meaning. This is of course a completely separate question from whether Adonalsium was sapient, but I think the evidence is pretty conclusive that it was. Edited December 30, 2018 by Weltall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) Like those, except it goes, "Honor is not Odium is not Cultivation is not Ruin is not Preservation... is not Shard Z," around the edge and, "is Adonalsium." towards the center. EDIT: Adonalsiumstormit I can't put the Shield of the Trinity picture in the post Edited December 30, 2018 by Ripheus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Weltall said: You would definitely get a RAFO on what Adonalsium looked like so there's little point in anyone asking. @SwordNimiForPresident We can infer that Adonalsium was 'alive' in some way because its death is what caused the Shattering. This is probably much closer to what Syl has to say about how one can only sort of kill a spren than what we'd think of as life and death (especially given that Brandon's said that the Shattering meant 'everything and nothing' to Investiture) but it does require that Adonalsium have been alive in some sense for the first WoB to have any meaning. This is of course a completely separate question from whether Adonalsium was sapient, but I think the evidence is pretty conclusive that it was. That first one is pretty conclusive. Confirms it was a living thing and asigns it a male pronoun. So much for that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Posted December 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Brandon says he only calls Uncle Andy a he out of convenience. I'm hoping Uncle Andy has a physical avatar, as all shards appear to be in the CR even though there based in the SR. Then again Cultivation became physical, or was that meeting an illusion of the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Thanatos said: I'm hoping Uncle Andy has a physical avatar, as all shards appear to be in the CR even though there based in the SR. All the Shards can create bodies allowing them to manifest in the Physical Realm and interact with everything there. I'd call them avatars but that's already taken by whatever Bavadin is doing specifically. If they can do it, I can't see why that would be beyond Adonalsium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 It may actually have a harder time manifesting in the Physical depending on how the Shards all fit together. If they were one piece with one intent when they were all together then it shouldn't be any problem at all. If they were all discrete pieces then Adonalsium may have been even more crippled than Harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: It may actually have a harder time manifesting in the Physical depending on how the Shards all fit together. If they were one piece with one intent when they were all together then it shouldn't be any problem at all. If they were all discrete pieces then Adonalsium may have been even more crippled than Harmony. They were one. If they were already split, then Investiture wouldn't have had to be assigned to the Shards at the Shattering, and it wouldn't have been possible for Adonalsium to have been split differently, and it was. Quote Paladin Brewer [PENDING REVIEW] Was it necessary that Adonalsium split into sixteen Shards, or was it happenstance? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] I will RAFO that one. Paladin Brewer [PENDING REVIEW] Would the number or intents have been different, if there were more or less people? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] That's all wrapped up in that RAFO. Let's say it's conceivable that the split could have happened in different ways. source 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 I'm still a fan of the theory that Adonalsium was a massive load of Investiture that gained life by virtue of raw power left alone for long enough to coalesce into a being (there was a WOB that that could happen a while ago, I think), subsequently being killed, and since he only had that one body, all his power breaking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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