Pathfinder Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Clicked the link and the whole page is FULL of articles, the primary being about Dr. Dre. What are you referencing? lol
Fifth of Daybreak he/him Posted May 9, 2014 Author Posted May 9, 2014 Why do they even make mobile websites! Argh, the links always get confusing switching over, and they're usually so compressed to the point of uselessness. This one should work. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-served-prison-term-thankful-home-article-1.1781131 2
Numb Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Why do they even make mobile websites! Argh, the links always get confusing switching over, and they're usually so compressed to the point of uselessness. This one should work. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-served-prison-term-thankful-home-article-1.1781131 That situation is more about how to go about punishing a crime and what prison means. In Nale's case being a KR that has a crime means death. It isn't about rehabilitating a criminal to be a model person in society. In that regard it doesn't matter when the crime was committed or what you did after that. 1
Confused Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Why does anyone think Anglo-American conceptions of law would have any bearing on what Nale does? It's a just pretext for him. And I don't believe murder has a statute of limitations anywhere in the Anglo-American legal system. There was the recent case of the former Weather Underground terrorist who changed her name and became a suburban mother of three and a respected member of her New England community. She turned herself in because of a bombing that killed someone forty years earlier. She's still in prison. Edited May 9, 2014 by Confused
Pathfinder Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Why does anyone think Anglo-American conceptions of law would have any bearing on what Nale does? It's a just pretext for him. And I don't believe murder has a statute of limitations anywhere in the Anglo-American legal system. There was the recent case of the former Weather Underground terrorist who changed her name and became a suburban mother of three and a respected member of her New England community. She turned herself in because of a bombing that killed someone forty years earlier. She's still in prison. FIrstly I stated on numerous posts that I am assuming my arguments based on the US legal system, and am open to other forms of legal precedent. Given that I live in the US, I am most familiar with that legal system. If you have experience with other legal systems, please ring in on how they would apply to Nale. Secondly, (although this is cited from wikipedia), I have quoted regarding the statute regarding murder below: "In some common law jurisdictions, a defendant accused of murder is not guilty if the victim survives for longer than one year and one day after the attack.[26] This reflects the likelihood that if the victim dies, other factors will have contributed to the cause of death, breaking the chain of causation. Subject to any statute of limitations, the accused could still be charged with an offence representing the seriousness of the initial assault. With advances in modern medicine, most countries have abandoned a fixed time period and test causation on the facts of the case. In England and Wales, the "year-and-a-day-rule" was abolished by the Law Reform (Year and a Day Rule) Act 1996. However, if death occurs three years or more after the original attack then prosecution can take place only with the Attorney-General's approval. In the United States, many jurisdictions have abolished the rule as well.[27][28] Abolition of the rule has been accomplished by enactment of statutory criminal codes, which had the effect of displacing the common-law definitions of crimes and corresponding defenses. In 2001, the Supreme Court of the United States held that retroactive application of a state supreme court decision abolishing the year-and-a-day rule did not violate the Ex Post Facto Clause of Article I of the United States Constitution.[29]" So although it is rare lately, it seems there still does in some places, exist a statute of limitations on murder
Confused Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 My post was Confusing, as I conflated two issues. I meant that we can't assess Nale's behavior by ANY legal system, whether common law, continental, Sharia, etc.. He was killing surgebinders for other reasons. I think he was Odium-influenced, as I mentioned in my post about Odium's long-term plan. But others have different explanations. Regarding your Wikipedia citation, I read it to refer to causation - whether the defendant's actions were the reason for the victim's death. If not, then no murder occurred. Maybe a battery, but no murder. The statute of limitations is a different issue. A statute of limitations sets the time within which a person can be charged for a crime. For most crimes, if authorities haven't charged the suspect within the requisite statute period - usually for lack of evidence - then even if the police discover evidence later on, too much time has elapsed for the suspect to be charged. Otherwise, every suspect of any crime - guilty or innocent, misdemeanor or felony - will walk around for the rest of their life wondering if Inspector Javert is on their heels. Criminal statutes of limitations are designed for peace of mind. But murder suspects don't get peace of mind. Their potential murderers. That's why the TV show "Cold Case" always focused on murders. There is no statute of limitations for murder. And even for other crimes, if the suspect leaves the jurisdiction (like the director Roman Polanski did after the accusation of statutory rape), then the statute of limitations is suspended until the suspect returns to the jurisdiction. Didn't mean to ramble, just clarify... 1
Pathfinder Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) There is never anything wrong with rambling in my book, especially considering I do VERY often. Thank you for clarifying and all excellent points edit: I don't agree with them all, (for instance I don't feel Nale is corrupted), but still excellent points and I understand better now Edited May 10, 2014 by P4thf1nd3r
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