Steeldancer he/him Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 So one of my long term questions has finally been answered- shades red eyes ARE the same thing as what’s going on with the evil kandra, the fused, etc. He made it clear to me that the red eyes don’t mean it’s the same forces causing the red eyes on threnody as on Roshar or scadrial, but that it really is the same mechanic- investiture hacking. So then the question is- who the heck is taking control of the shades when their eyes turn red? My guess is it’s a large chunk of Ambition that turned sapient, but it’s clearly not a shard due to no shard being on threnody, so what are your thoughts? 4
17th Splinter he/him Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Yes, I completely agree. Did you get your answer from a WOB? I never thought about that before
Steeldancer he/him Posted September 20, 2018 Author Posted September 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, 17th Splinter said: Yes, I completely agree. Did you get your answer from a WOB? I never thought about that before Yeah got it at the legion release.
Quantus he/him Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 "Investiture Hacking" would imply at least two shards' Investitures at work: the original/base form and the one that came along and did the hacking. Given the middle-point in the timeline there, Id guess that the original form was Ambitions, while the Shades are something either left behind from Odium's incursion. Id even go so far as to guess that it's the result of chunks lost in the fight (in a similar way to how tha Aons are just the "sparks" that flew off when the actual Shards were shattered). Note that Im assuming that Investiture Hacking doesnt come into play with magic systems that are independent of shards (natural or predating) mostly on the logic that Hoid doesnt have any red effect from using his pre-Shattering Lightweaving (that we know of), and also since a lot of Rosharan magic predates the Shattering but was successfully reworked by a shard which implies to me that a shard only has to resort to hacking a "claimed" magic system.
StanLemon Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 I'm assuming whatever The Evil is, it's what is messing with the Shades.
tmnsquirtle Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 18 hours ago, StanLemon said: I'm assuming whatever The Evil is, it's what is messing with the Shades. Well, The Evil isn't a shard, so it's maybe a bit more complex than that. I also found this wob: Quote Questioner I asked about the Evil on Threnody. Brandon Sanderson Yes. Brandon Sanderson Is it a Splinter? Brandon Sanderson That's a big RAFO. source So I suppose it's possible that The Evil is a splinter, in which case it would probably act like a shard when it comes to co-opting investiture. But honestly.... we know so little about threnody that it's going to be hard to really make a good judgement about what's going on.
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