Quantus he/him Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 This was an idea that occurred to me during another thread, and I thought it deserved it's own discussion. Say, Hypothetically, through shenanigans (and presumably theft) Lift got her hands on the necessary items to make her a full Feruchmist and/or Mistborn (there are several options available). How might her own digestive Stormlight powers interact with those, and would it facilitate anything like Compounding? I could see the presence of another End-Positve Investiture connection result in a similar "hack" that allows for the two to interact, and I wanted to talk through the possible ways that might manifest. Thoughts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftucker0525 Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) The only thing I could think is maybe she could power every metallic art with any one given allomantic metal. She basically transforms food into raw Investiture, and each metal is just a "key" to Harmonys Investiture. So I think she would probably break every metal into it's most basic/raw form of Investiture, which, like the mists, would power all allomantic powers. Every metal would be a skeleton key. Edited July 10, 2018 by jefftucker0525 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ he/him Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, jefftucker0525 said: The only thing I could think is maybe she could power every metallic art with any one given allomantic metal. She basically transforms food into raw Investiture, and each metal is just a "key" to Harmonys Investiture. So I think she would probably break every metal into it's most basic/raw form of Investiture, which, like the mists, would power all allomantic powers. Every metal would be a skeleton key. Eh, that's not quite how allomancy works. The power doesn't come from the metal, it acts as the key, determine which power you get. Lift would still have to eat different metals to get different powers, but she could possibly use the power to fuel her surgebinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftucker0525 Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, StrikerEZ said: Eh, that's not quite how allomancy works. The power doesn't come from the metal, it acts as the key, determine which power you get. Lift would still have to eat different metals to get different powers, but she could possibly use the power to fuel her surgebinding. That's exactly what I said tho... I'm proposing that since each metal is a key to a different power, Lift would naturally be able to treat each metal as one. She breaks food down into Investiture. Food isn't Invested and has no realmatic properties, atleast no food I know of. Definitely not the food lift is eating. So if she can take something as mundane as food and turn it into fuel for surgebinding, I'm 100% sure she can do some incredibly wonky things with a magic system that uses ingestion as it's conduit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Lift has to be able to digest something for her ability to give her power from it. Quote Argent Does Lift turn food into Investiture directly or is it similar to the metals on-- Brandon Sanderson Similar to the metals. Argent So like a gate? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Argent Okay, that's good to know. Brandon Sanderson She can metabolize-- She can draw-- It's not actually the food, it's-- It's not like the metals, not exactly. It's not-- What she can do is she can metabolize into Investiture instead of sugar. Does that make sense? Argent Yeah. Brandon Sanderson We metabolize food into sugar. She can metabolize it into Investiture. Does that make sense? Argent That makes a lot of sense. So if she eats-- Brandon Sanderson She's got to have a blood sugar spike. Argent So if she eats like a cake it will give her more Investiture-- Brandon Sanderson Faster. It will give her faster. Argent Whereas if she eats a vegetable... Brandon Sanderson Vegetable... More calories is going to equal more. But the better comparison would be a sausage and bread. Because bread is a fast blood sugar spike and the sausage is not. And that's how I'm working in my head. It's kind of a magical version of a blood sugar spike and I have it happen to her faster than it could happen. Like normally you eat a piece of bread and your blood sugar spikes in a half hour, it's going to go faster for Lift. Argent Hers is like five minutes. Brandon Sanderson Hers is like five minutes, but a sausage would be slower. source She shouldn't be able to get anything from the metals that they don't give. Here's an interesting one though. Quote Zantis [PENDING REVIEW] Let's say Lift received two Hemalurgic spikes: one for Allomantic bendalloy and one for Feruchemical bendalloy. Then she eats a bunch of pancakes, stores the nutrition in a piece of bendalloy, burns it to compound nutrition... Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Okay. *several times as Zantis speaks* Zantis [PENDING REVIEW] Can that nutrition be turned into Stormlight? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] ...Yeah. *Zantis laughs* Yeah, but remember she didn't have to be-- so basically what that-- is just a really complicated way for her to turn Allomantic Investiture <so that it can allocate Allomantic Investiture> into Stormlight. That would be a complex method of doing that. Just transferring one type of Investiture into another. It's just basically drawing from Ruin and she is then turning it into Stormlight *inaudible* -ish? It's a complicated thing, but that's basically what happens, just really crazy. Zantis [PENDING REVIEW] Okay, so-- but it is the same sort of thing, right? *hesitant nod from Brandon* And... *Brandon interrupts* Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] I hope that eventually in the cosmere they will find easier ways than that... Footnote: Brandon may have misspoken: "drawing from Ruin" should perhaps be "drawing from Preservation" according to other sources.source Use bendalloy Feruchemy to store nutrition which she can convert and compound for Stormlight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftucker0525 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Ok so I guess that kinda shuts my idea down without some crazy person logic. I wonder if lift could power any other magic systems though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody she/her Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 with the right hack I think she should be able to. She needs to have the right connection and must of course learn about the system first but since each system is powered by the same source (investiture) she could in theory power it through food. She would need the right key/focus/etc of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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