+Invocation Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 If you merged the triplicate of Shards from Roshar, would Honor and Cultivation's intents be able to cancel Odium's destructive Intent? What would that be like in any capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weltall Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Very weird, I would imagine. We know that any pair of Shards could theoretically combine but that some of them would place a lot of pressure on the Vessel. A combination of three Shards would be even moreso, unless some of those Intents synergized well. For example, we know that Ruin and Cultivation are more closely related than a lot of possible combinations (both focus on 'change') and so would probably place a lot less pressure on the Vessel, but the combination of Honor (binding things together), Cultivation (change over time) and Odium ('God's divine hatred' per Frost) would probably not be pleasant for the Vessel. The combination of Honor and Odium alone might well be a safer duo, as the hatred that Odium represents could potentially be given direction by the former Intent. Edited June 15, 2018 by Weltall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 5ith Ideal he/him Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 I don't know if this would be possible. While Honor and Cultivation have been opposing Odium, that does not mean that their Intent would always do so. I feel like these Intents are right on the line of outright clashing, and it would be nearly, if not completely, impossible to achieve anything with the three Shards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Wandering Investor Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 The influence of shards is not canceled if the vessel has multiple shards. Harmony for instance has to fulfill both Preservation and Ruin, they don't cancel out. That's why he doesn't stop murders. Its also part of the reason he encourages Wax. Wax is incredibly destructive and ruins a lot of things. A balance to all the preservation that happens. Brandon has stated that there was a possible Sazed would have become Discord, if he couldn't balance the shards. Putting Odium with other shards would not make the hatred go away. It would either crush the vessel, or the hatred might be directed at the other Intent. Think Honor+Odium=Vengence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weltall Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Wandering Investor Yeah, I think that's basically the idea. Saying multiple Intents could cancel out is definitely imprecise but having some other Intent along with Odium could channel that hatred towards a potentially more constructive use. This is pretty much what Frost says when he remarks that Odium is God's hatred, separated from the virtues that once gave it context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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If you merged the triplicate of Shards from Roshar, would Honor and Cultivation's intents be able to cancel Odium's destructive Intent? What would that be like in any capacity?
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