StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 So, from tons of signings and in WoBs Brandon has been saying for years that getting spren off Roshar is possible, just really hard. I found this WoB, and I don't know what to think now. Quote Alex Hetu If you went to Shadesmar on Scadrial would there be spren there? Brandon Sanderson "Spren" is a term for things on Roshar. So yes, there are a few, but they're from Roshar originally. source This is from 2015, I think. That's really interesting. I don't have much to theorize about this (right now), I just wanted to see what you guys think about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llarimar he/him Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 I have seen this WoB before, and interests me because one of the only ways I can see spren wandering to Scadrial would be through a Radiant bond. There are few options here: 1. They are just lower spren like rainspren who wandered to Scadrial aimlessly (unlikely, especially if it's "really hard" for a spren to travel - that suggests volition) 2. They are higher spren like honorspren who intentionally traveled to Scadrial of their own volition (again, unlikely I think, because we have not seen spren to be very ambitious or proactive by their own merits) 3. They traveled with a Knight Radiant (the most likely possibility, I think, because they wouldn't particularly have a reason to go there alone, and also because they might need a Radiant bond to help them if travel off Roshar is difficult) Perhaps Hoid has traveled to Scadrial with his Cryptic, or Elsecallers have traveled there through the Cognitive Realm and then have Elsecalled into the Physical with their spren. Also, why Scadrial in particular? Scadrial doesn't have any special link to Roshar, so far as we know - if anything Nalthis seems to be the most closely associated world. So when Brandon says "Yes, there are a few spren on Scadrial," did the questioner just happen to guess the right cosmere world where spren have traveled, or are there spren present on any given world in the cosmere, like Nalthis or Sel or Threnody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Llarimar said: Also, why Scadrial in particular? Scadrial doesn't have any special link to Roshar, so far as we know - if anything Nalthis seems to be the most closely associated world. So when Brandon says "Yes, there are a few spren on Scadrial," did the questioner just happen to guess the right cosmere world where spren have traveled, or are there spren present on any given world in the cosmere, like Nalthis or Sel or Threnody? I don't think that Scadrial is special in this instance. Roshar doesn't have any special link to Scadrial, but I don't think it does to Nalthis either. Roshar just happens to be a centrally located area in the Cognitive Realm, so it tends to act as a hub world or nexus. Quote Questioner Nightblood. He just showed up at the end of The Stormlight Archive-- Brandon Sanderson Yes. Questioner --the last one. So, is there a place that's a connection between all of the universes? Brandon Sanderson Yes, there is. Questioner And it's been reached in The Stormlight Archive? Brandon Sanderson Okay, so I'm guessing you don't know about all of this but there are characters from Elantris that are in Mistborn-- Questioner Yes. Like Hoid. Brandon Sanderson --and all of this stuff. I would say one of the things is that Roshar is a little bit easier to get to than some of the others, but it's not that it has been breached there so much as it's a little bit easier to get to. Questioner Yes, I'm assuming it has something to do with the Cognitive Realm but then objects going through the Cognitive Realm is kind of tripping me. Brandon Sanderson Hehe… *long pause* There are places in the Cognitive Realm that are somewhat nexus-like, like you're talking about. Yes there are places like that. ...So Roshar might actually be the easiest place to get to in the cosmere, like from planet to planet. Sel is probably the hardest, right now. For a long time Taldain was very hard, but not anymore. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 That last sentence is interesting, it looks like Brandon changed his mind on Taldain's interdicted-ness between then and now, since Brandon's mentioned how the planet is currently inaccessible when talking about how Taldain would have been another good place for Vasher to get easy Investiture, except that he can't go there, and Khriss confirms that the interdiction is ongoing at whatever point in the timeline she wrote the AU essays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 @Weltall I personally think that change was recent enough that it doesn't contradict those things. Perhaps it's linked to certain events in Era 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaladin Zahel Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 The questioner only asked if there were spren in Scadrial's Shadesmar. They did not specify alive or dead so maybe it's as simple as people with dead blades are there ie. Ghostblood or 17th Shard members who have acquired them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciridae Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Minor Secret history spoiler Spoiler When Kelsier goes to find Khriss and Nazh on the lake near luthadel he sees something rustling in the bushes. I think it's safe to say that wasn't a regular animal, (because what would it eat?) or any sapient variety of spren. There may or may not be sapient spren on scadrial, but at least the animalistic kind can be found there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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