Niteshado Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 VISITORS from other WORLDS Rarely does The House Record bring news of the sensational, but the reputable Lady Nicelle Sauvage of New Seran has contacted us with a report that will shock you. “I was lost in the mountains south of the Southern Roughs,” said Sauvage. “And my fellow travellers had either left me or died. That’s when I came upon a mountain pool of the most perfect blue, fed by the melting snows of the heights. Harmony, but I thought I’d reached Paradise.” As twilight struck early, as it is wont to do in the mountains, Sauvage saw a hunched figure by the pool. “Just a shadow, really,” she said. “Piercing eyes, and a face like some otherworldly beast from one of those hideous pulp stories. I regret to say I hadn’t the courage to engage this Visitor. Instead, its horrible visage struck right at my heart. I let preservation instinct take over and ran for an hour before making camp elsewhere.” We know Khriss is on planet (300 years after she was last seen on it). but Kelsier destroyed the Pits of Hathsin, as well as the main perpendicularity point. So unless she has access to another method (when im thinking she doesnt) in order to return she needs a perpendicularity point. Could this maybe be Harmony's pool? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPHRD Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 It is possible, but its also so hard to know whats true and whats not in those broadsheets, could be foreshadowing could be a red herring. Many people theories Harmony's perpendicularity (aka shardpool), being in the southern hemisphere, since thats where Ettmetal comes from. But Harmony might have two perpendicularities or Ettmetal is not generated in just one place. At this point its hard to know for sure. Also, that pool might be Trells mini perpendicularity somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niteshado Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 i feel like thats gonna be reversed maybe? Trell, if he has one, would be southern to me. i feel like snowy mountains would be harmony (Cause of Ancient Terris dealing with mountains and such) Does trell have the ability to hold a perpendicularity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 I don't think Trell has enough presence on Scadrial to manifest a perpendicularity yet. I mean, we know that Harmony is keeping it back, so it might not be able to invest enough to do that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niteshado Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, RShara said: I don't think Trell has enough presence on Scadrial to manifest a perpendicularity yet. Does "trell" even hold a shard? i was under the impression that in order to have a perpendicularity you needed mass ammounts of investiture, aka, shardholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Niteshado said: Does "trell" even hold a shard? What do you think? Quote Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] The metal that Bleeder had, is the Shard associated with that metal the same entity that's calling itself Trell? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niteshado Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Ok so i missed that. Then yes, i go with Harmony holding "Trell" back enough that they dont yet have a perpendicularity. at least not on that side of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, Niteshado said: Ok so i missed that. Then yes, i go with Harmony holding "Trell" back enough that they dont yet have a perpendicularity. at least not on that side of the world. I think Harmony is holding Trell back from the entire world. It wouldn't make sense to let it get a foothold anywhere on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niteshado Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, RShara said: I think Harmony is holding Trell back from the entire world. Any theories bouncing around im not seeing about this? Either Odium is being tricky (red and can move planets) or there is another shard that can leave its world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Odium is trapped in the Rosharan system. Other than him, any Shard that isn't Splintered and is sapient can move around whereever they want. Red is a sign of corrupted or co-opted investiture, not necessarily Odium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niteshado Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, RShara said: Odium is trapped in the Rosharan system Timeline fun? (kidding) where in the world did i read they were contained to their planet then..oh well. Any threads/theories guessing on who it could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 On mobile so I don't feel like citing the sources atm But MB Era 2 takes place during or after the gap between SA 5 and 6. I suppose if odium manages to free himself in that time, he could be there, but its unlikely. Current frontrunner is for it to be Autonomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Niteshado said: Timeline fun? (kidding) where in the world did i read they were contained to their planet then..oh well. Any threads/theories guessing on who it could be? General consensus tends towards Autonomy, but there's obviously no confirmation. Do a search for "Trell" and I'm sure you'll find a few threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recneps Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 2:58 PM, RShara said: Odium is trapped in the Rosharan system. Other than him, any Shard that isn't Splintered and is sapient can move around whereever they want. Red is a sign of corrupted or co-opted investiture, not necessarily Odium. He may not be trapped in the Rosharan system. Wax and Wayne takes place after Stormlight 1-5. We don't know how 1-5 ends.. It's possible that he breaks his bonds. Unlikely, but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, recneps said: He may not be trapped in the Rosharan system. Wax and Wayne takes place after Stormlight 1-5. We don't know how 1-5 ends.. It's possible that he breaks his bonds. Unlikely, but possible. ...I mentioned this 2 posts later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TySun Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I would think the well of ascension would still exist and that one of Harmony's shardpools would be the well. TLR's palace was preserved during the catacendre because there were people hiding inside. So I think one pool is under Elendel itself. But two shards equal two shardpools, right? So there is a second one elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Do we actually know for certain that "Trell" is a known Shard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Leyrann said: Do we actually know for certain that "Trell" is a known Shard? Yep. Quote Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] Is the metal that Bleeder was associated with and had, is the Shard associated with that metal the same entity that's calling itself Trell? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes. source Quote Chaos I'm sorry Brandon, you might RAFO me. *written* For the metal in Bleeder, is it from a Shard we know? Brandon Sanderson Oh no… You drove all this way, that's what makes me. Eric comes and he's like-- Chaos You RAFO'd me at Words of Radiance-- Brandon Sanderson I know. Chaos --I asked you a question that was too much. Brandon Sanderson …you push, yeah… There you are you got your answer. You got me. *writes* Yes. Footnote: at that time we knew 9 Shards: Devotion, Dominion, Preservation, Ruin, Odium, Honor, Cultivation, Endowment and Autonomysource Brandon's also said that if Sazed were to die, he'd drop one Shard, Harmony, rather than separate Ruin and Preservation Shards. So I think Harmony would have a new, and singular, perpendicularity, rather than two separate ones. Also, I don't have any proof of this of course, but I feel like releasing Odium to wreak havoc on the cosmere would be a bad way to end SA5. Edited February 25, 2018 by RShara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 18 hours ago, TySun said: I would think the well of ascension would still exist and that one of Harmony's shardpools would be the well. Brandon, Circa 2008. Quote Dalenthas Does the Well of Ascension still exist in the new world? Or is it no longer necessary? I assumed that Preservation collected there like Ruin collects in the Pits of Hathsin, so if Atium keeps forming then the well should keep filling... Brandon Sanderson The Well (and the small wells in the Pits) is no more. For now at least. 18 hours ago, TySun said: But two shards equal two shardpools, right? So there is a second one elsewhere. I disagree. He should just have one big pool. (Arcanum isn't loading, so have the Theoryland entry) Quote Question The metals that were formed from Shards, like atium and lerasium. Are they somewhat naturally occurring, like in [?] of power, or are they specifically [?]? Brandon Sanderson They are somewhat naturally occurring. There are some special circumstances on Scadrial, but yes. The idea is that the pools are one state of this mythological matter. Question So if you have the physical state and the liquid state, is there a less liquid state? [what does this question even mean?] Because some of that's being used. Brandon Sanderson Um... Oh. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, it's such a drop in the bucket compared to the actual Shards. So that it is a statistically insignificant amount, but it is an amount. QuestionSo Harmony's pool, wherever it is is statistically larger than... Brandon SandersonYes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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