Ethan_sedai he/him Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I was curious if you could store Steelsight in a tinmind. I don't mean being able to use steelsight without steel or iron, I that would be like asking if you could store sight so that you could see if your eyes were closed. what I'm asking is if an ordinary coinshot could get really good at seeing things with steelsight without needing to resort to hemalurgy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 It's not actually a sense... It's... Steelsight. You have to be burning steel to have the lines pop up. I don't think a tin mind can store a "sense" that requires a metal to be burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangesrhyme he/him Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) I feel like this one is almost cut-and-dry, but it would be nice to get a full WoB (which may already exist). We know f-Tin isn't limited to the traditional five senses - I believe we've gotten word that if there was a Windwhisper platypus, it could store electroreception. However, it seems likely that Investiture-granted senses wouldn't work quite the same in that regard. That said, a double-tin Twinborn, compounding the lifesense granted by Breath... Would be terrifying. Well, strategically, but you get my point. Edited September 30, 2017 by orangesrhyme Phrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 9/30/2017 at 2:54 AM, orangesrhyme said: but it would be nice to get a full WoB (which may already exist) Steel Lines are Spiritual in nature, so I don't think they count for the purposes of F-Tin. Quote relient23 Are the lines that an Allomancer sees when burning iron or steel are in the physical realm, the spiritual realm, or the cognitive realm? Brandon Sanderson "It is more spiritual realm than anything." On 9/29/2017 at 7:13 PM, ethan_sedai said: what I'm asking is if an ordinary coinshot could get really good at seeing things with steelsight without needing to resort to hemalurgy. Any Coinshot or Lurcher can do the fancy sight. Granted, Marsh isn't giving any hints, but... Quote Brandon Sanderson By the way, you probably remember form book one the way that Inquisitors see. They have such a subtle touch with Steel and Iron, and their lines, that they can see via the trace metals in everyone's bodies and in the objects around them. The thing is, any Allomancer with access to iron or steel could learn to do this. Some have figured it out, in the past, but in current times, nobody—at least, nobody the heroes know—is aware of this. Except, of course, for Marsh. And he chose not to share it. On 9/30/2017 at 2:54 AM, orangesrhyme said: compounding the lifesense granted by Breath I don't think this will get anywhere. Remember how abilities cap out at certain Heightenings? Life Sense is one of those abilities, and I don't think extra Preservation Investiture(Compounding) will be any different from extra Endowment Investiture(Breaths). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 This seems like a fun question, actually. On one hand, the blue lines Allomancers see are "more Spiritual than anything", but on the other they do see them. So it's a visual interpretation of something that's not normally visible... Temporal (atium, electrum, gold, and malatium) shadows would be very similar to this, I feel - another peak into the Spiritual Realm, interpreted by the common senses. Could store these things? Maybe. But to what effect? Make yourself better at seeing steel lines? I don't know if you can be better at something like this - the Inquisitors' trick seems more skill than raw... visual power. Maybe you could use stored Steelsight to see lines farther away, and more clearly? But then that's the same as enhancing (via duralumin or flaring) your steel. There is some elegance to the powers circling back to each other in this way, calling back to how all power is just investiture in the Spiritual Realm, but I doubt that's the case here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangesrhyme he/him Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Here’s an interesting thing to consider: When Marsh reads Goradel’s note, the book mentions that he flares tin, so that he can see the page better. Obviously, this isn’t going to boost his night vision (railroad spikes through the face tend to be bad for that), but it seems like it enhances his steelsight. Now, that is probably just an argument more in favor of the Spiritual aspect of Steelsight, since a-Tin does more than just enhance the senses. But still, that level of interaction is interesting to consider, in the context of this thread... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, orangesrhyme said: Now, that is probably just an argument more in favor of the Spiritual aspect of Steelsight, since a-Tin does more than just enhance the senses. But still, that level of interaction is interesting to consider, in the context of this thread... Tin improves his mind into interpretate the external feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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