Allomantic savants

[King Cole he/him]

So my friend and I were talking about bendalloy savants where he was wondering if being a bendalloy savant would 1) be able to expand bubble size, or 2) move the bubble with them. Are either of these correct and do we know any of the allomantic savantisms beside pewter and tin?

[+Extesian he/him]

48 minutes ago, King Cole said:

So my friend and I were talking about bendalloy savants where he was wondering if being a bendalloy savant would 1) be able to expand bubble size, or 2) move the bubble with them. Are either of these correct and do we know any of the allomantic savantisms beside pewter and tin?

No and yes

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Note that I couldn't find a WoB but nobody on Earth, except maybe Peter, knows more about time bubbles than Kurkistan, so this quote has some authority

"As a general overview, we know from the Era 2 books that bubbles don't (normally) move with their casters, and we also know that the bubbler leaving the bubble "pops" it. Moreover, both the Mistborn Adventure Game (a dubious source, but worth looking at) and the implications within the books suggest that the size of the bubble cannot be changed once it's been cast. So Wayne can't grow and shrink his bubbles however he pleases."

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INTERVIEW: Nov 30th, 2016

Borderlands SF-AU Tour (Paraphrased)

QUESTION

So my quick question: Can you use Identity (I love the speed bubbles!) to anchor speed bubbles to yourself?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Uh, this is possible. That’s less a matter of Identity. What’s gonna happen there, like, the more someone uses the powers, the more familiar and intermingled with their soul the powers become, and they are able to accomplish things that others can’t. This would be like a mistborn learning to hover a coin, right, which they can do, but most think you can’t. That’s the sort of level we’re going with.

NECARION

So a savant could?

BRANDON SANDERSON

A savant could totally do that. The problem is, things moving in and out of a speed bubble, there’s a transference of energy. This is how we keep speed bubbles from irradiating people when light moves through them, right, red shift. And so there’s a transfer of energy directly from the spiritual realm, which means that moving with a speed bubble, you’re gonna run into that, and it’s gonna be, it’s gonna cause all kinds of problems, but it would be possible.

 

[King Cole he/him]

So its kind of foggy? 

I still wonder what metals we know what savantism does.

[Calderis he/him]

The only one we've seen definitively is tin. 

Wish I could help you more, but Savants are (seemingly) rare. 

[FiveLate]

On 8/25/2017 at 8:18 PM, King Cole said:

So my friend and I were talking about bendalloy savants where he was wondering if being a bendalloy savant would 1) be able to expand bubble size, or 2) move the bubble with them. Are either of these correct and do we know any of the allomantic savantisms beside pewter and tin?

Bubble sizes have some flex to them already.  I just read a WOB the other day that said something about this.  I'll try to find it after I post and edit it in.  The reason I remember it was because the wording made me think that it was like energy states in electrons.  Ie there were different sizes, but gaps between them that a normal Allomancer could not reach and I immediately though...hmm I wonder if a savant could....

Brandon has also said that copper clouds and seekers would probably never realise that they were savants, ie. The they would seem really really good, but you wouldn't get an extreme noticeable effect like tin.  

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INTERVIEW: Jan 31st, 2015

Salt Lake City Fan Experience

SIRCE LUCKWIELDER

"When Kelsier is teaching Vin about the basic eight Allomantic Metals, he talks about not flaring metals, especially Tin and Pewter, as it does strange things to people. Does this imply that there were other savants before Spook?

BRANDON SANDERSON

His answer was that there were other savants before Spook.

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Spook, savants, Kelsier, Vin,

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INTERVIEW: Oct 9th, 2015

Shadows of Self - San Francisco

QUESTION

There is quantitative difference in Allomancy (e.g. Elend is stronger than Vin), there is skill difference (e.g. Breeze is better than Vin with zinc), but is there a qualitative difference too?

BRANDON SANDERSON

That’s the scale of what we call savant. Wax can do more with less. It’s not just skill, the burning for long, using for so long, will actually adapt your soul to the power.

QUESTION

So can bronze savant pierce Copperclouds?

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BRANDON SANDERSON

Yes, a bronze savant should be able to pierce copperclouds. It depends on the strengths of the Coppercloud and the strength of the savant, but yes.

QUESTION

So Elend could theoretically learn to pierce Copperclouds?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Weaker ones, yeah, totally. He can learn how to do it by brute force.

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allomancy, savants, Vin, Elend,

 

At the same time, since then, he has been reevaluating what exactly savants is because of Wax.

This thread covers Argents discussions with Brandon.

WOB's to be edited in.

 

Edited August 31, 2017 by FiveLate
Added quotes.