WhiteLeeopard she/her Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Once the whole book comes out, lets just discuss it as a whole, opening threads for particular characters and events as we need/want them. As I think most people here will just read read read till its over. Then the strongest will come here to open threads while the rest sleep for 20h .
Steeldancer he/him Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, WhiteLeeopard said: Once the whole book comes out, lets just discuss it as a whole, opening threads for particular characters and events as we need/want them. As I think most people here will just read read read till its over. Then the strongest will come here to open threads while the rest sleep for 20h . I'll probably have school, but I guarantee on the 14th my teachers will not be getting any attention. Lol.
1stBondsmith he/him Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) I have decided that on the two days after the release, all my employees will have a free pass on not showing up to work. Made it policy this afternoon. I expect there will be little productivity anyway. I myself will be hard pressed to accomplish much else. As for the reading, after deep introspection, I have decided I like the visual art, the flow of the book and the build of the "Awesome" moments too much to read it a chapter at a time. I have to leave the boards as of Tuesday and won't return till I have read Oathbringer. It would be like watching a play by play of the first quarter of a football game of your favorite team, and waiting till the end of the season to see the rest. I must wait, and try not to run into anyone who will spoil it for me. Unfortunately, we have over a dozen hardcore Sanderson fans in the company. Maybe I will tie the absence policy to not discussing the book before hand...This will give HR seizures! Edited August 17, 2017 by 1stBondsmith typos 2
Ammanas Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 @1stBondsmith You must be the coolest boss ever! You wouldn't happen to live in and hire around the Denver area would you? 1
Guest Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 After reading all comments, I would suggest starting one topic per excerpt chapter released which means, every Tuesday at around noon, someone ought to create an appropriate thread where we can all jump in as we finish reading them. It would work best in someone were mandated with the task to do it on a consistent basis. Once we finish the pre-release chapters and we move onto the actual book, I would suggest the creation of five sub-forum, one for each part, including the interludes, in order to have readers jump in as they move into the book without risking falling onto spoilers. I mean, topics will get created onto the main forum, this is true, but anyone not having completed the book and wanting to discuss what he/she has read so far won't be able to even open it up for fear of getting a spoiler. I mean, say I finish reading Part 2 and I want to post my impressions, my thoughts and where I think the story is going, I can't click onto the Oathbringer main sub-forum because I may see posts titles such as "Adolin's death, discuss". I realize this may however not be possible, but I think it would allow Sharders to keep on interacting while they are reading the book. I know it will take me weeks to finish it, so without intermediate discussion threads, I will not be able to log onto the Shard until I get to the end of it. Sadly. I know others will be within similar situations, so I thought it would help us keep on getting the discussion going and allow all of us to keep on posting. I also think it will be interesting for us to discuss the book as we read, say what we think will happen and such as opposed to only discuss it once it is finished. In the light of the chapter per chapter pre-release discussion threads, I thought it would be an interesting experiment to have. Thoughts? Is it possible?
scifan he/him Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 Rather than one post per chapter, perhaps a post for "this weeks" chapters that have been released... 3
1stBondsmith he/him Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 @Ammanas, I don't live near Denver, but I do live close enough to Sanderson that I will be at the Oathbringer release party at BYU, with two of my adult children. Not willing to stand in line for the many hours it will take for a personalization, because I want to start reading- alone, with a stock of snacks and drinks. My wife said she wants to read it together after I have finished it so she does not have to put up with the "Ahah!" moments when new Cosmere information is revealed. She says I pontificate too much on those and it ruins the flow of the book. I told her that that's why I fit in with the 17th Shard, and she rolled her eyes... I love that girl! 3
+Wax he/him Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) On 18/08/2017 at 1:29 AM, Calderis said: There's over 100 chapters in the book, I don't know if this will work for the full release. The 32 chapters being released are part 1 of 5, and doesn't include any interludes. I think this chapter/thread idea will work well for the gated content release, but once the full book is out and people are reading at different speeds? That many threads is going to span multiple pages, and be very difficult to find the thread you want if people are actively posting at a high traffic time. I don't know if it will work well all contained to the spoiler board. Yeah. Totally agree the chapter thing won't work with the full book. In any case, when the full book comes out, I'll see if I can set up a thread post book 1, book 2, and so on (ie 4 threads as the full book reactions will be up pretty early by others). Obviously there'll be other threads. But that will allow a mid book discussion without spoilering. Edited August 18, 2017 by axcellence
Darkness he/him Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 On 18/08/2017 at 11:40 AM, maxal said: After reading all comments, I would suggest starting one topic per excerpt chapter released which means, every Tuesday at around noon, someone ought to create an appropriate thread where we can all jump in as we finish reading them. It would work best in someone were mandated with the task to do it on a consistent basis. Once we finish the pre-release chapters and we move onto the actual book, I would suggest the creation of five sub-forum, one for each part, including the interludes, in order to have readers jump in as they move into the book without risking falling onto spoilers. I mean, topics will get created onto the main forum, this is true, but anyone not having completed the book and wanting to discuss what he/she has read so far won't be able to even open it up for fear of getting a spoiler. I mean, say I finish reading Part 2 and I want to post my impressions, my thoughts and where I think the story is going, I can't click onto the Oathbringer main sub-forum because I may see posts titles such as "Adolin's death, discuss". I realize this may however not be possible, but I think it would allow Sharders to keep on interacting while they are reading the book. I know it will take me weeks to finish it, so without intermediate discussion threads, I will not be able to log onto the Shard until I get to the end of it. Sadly. I know others will be within similar situations, so I thought it would help us keep on getting the discussion going and allow all of us to keep on posting. I also think it will be interesting for us to discuss the book as we read, say what we think will happen and such as opposed to only discuss it once it is finished. In the light of the chapter per chapter pre-release discussion threads, I thought it would be an interesting experiment to have. Thoughts? Is it possible? This probably wont work simply because there will be people on the shard creating threads that haven't seen this one. We can definitely have "Chapter 1-3 thread" etc in the mix, but it wont be an exclusive board. on another note... Does the math mean we only get chapters 31-32 on the last week?! I'm outraged! The injustice! I demand... Nothing actually... I am grateful, and I demand nothing 1
phoenix2563 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Darkness said: I demand... Nothing actually... I am grateful, and I demand nothing Exactly. In addition, we should all be grateful that we serve... I mean read an author who is so adept at cloning himself to give us new books to devour so regularly too Edited August 21, 2017 by phoenix2563 Spelling
Guest Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Darkness said: This probably wont work simply because there will be people on the shard creating threads that haven't seen this one. We can definitely have "Chapter 1-3 thread" etc in the mix, but it wont be an exclusive board. on another note... Does the math mean we only get chapters 31-32 on the last week?! I'm outraged! The injustice! I demand... Nothing actually... I am grateful, and I demand nothing This is why I suggested to have separate spoiler free sub sections of the forum to enable discussion for those still being within the process of reading the book. I for one would like to record my impressions as I go along and I would love to weight them with other people without risking to be spoiled. Of course, this would only be effective for say a three months period following the release of Oathbringer. Next Tuesday, we get the prologue. The week after, chapters 1 to 3. They won't out all at once.
Darkness he/him Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, maxal said: This is why I suggested to have separate spoiler free sub sections of the forum to enable discussion for those still being within the process of reading the book. I for one would like to record my impressions as I go along and I would love to weight them with other people without risking to be spoiled. Of course, this would only be effective for say a three months period following the release of Oathbringer. Next Tuesday, we get the prologue. The week after, chapters 1 to 3. They won't out all at once. I like that idea, but wouldn't we need a site admin to make such a subsection? Also, the math I was referring to is the following hypothetical schedule: Aug 22: Prologue Aug 29: 1-3 Sept 5: 4-6 Sept 12: 7-9 Sept 19: 10-12 Sep 26: 13-15 Oct 3: 16-18 Oct 10: 19-21 Oct 17: 22-24 Oct 24: 25-27 Oct 31: 28-30 -->Nov 7: 31-32<--
Guest Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, Darkness said: I like that idea, but wouldn't we need a site admin to make such a subsection? Yes, we would which is why I am suggesting it. We can't make it happen unless the site admins agree it is a good idea which I don't know if they will. Schedule looks awesome.
Pagerunner he/him Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 I think it's a very limited group of people who will be looking for in-the-middle discussion. It would probably be a lot of work on the mods part for a few users to build that in the forum. But the blog part of the forums could probably pull that off with no mod intervention. Make an OB Read blog, give it an entry for each chapter, and appropriate entries for Part overviews. Probably no text in the blog entry itself, except maybe a reminder to not drop hints from future chapters. (Edit in your own thoughts later, so nobody has to wait on you for discussion). And then each comment thread could be a discussion of everything through that chapter. And then all you'd have to ask from the mods would be a way to publicize it - maybe a pinned thread with an index, maybe a news post that says you're hosting it. 1
Chaos he/him Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 I would say we make Chapters 1-3 topic, 4-6 topic, etc with the assumption that if you go into the 4-6 topic you've already read the earlier stuff. I'll make an index. My goal is to make these topics and manage the spoilers religiously. I don't think it's necessary to make any other section. Read the chapters before going into the Oathbringer board. It's the spoiler board for a reason. This board doesn't have its topics appear in the topic feed on the site anymore, so I don't think it will be a problem. I think we will have part-by-part topics upon the final release. That's about the best we can do, and no spoilers in topic titles will still be enforced. However, it still may be best to not go into the Oathbringer board until you finish the book. I strongly dislike additional subforums, so I will not be making part-by-part boards. It is longer than Words of Radiance but I feel the Words of Radiance forum structure made sense and I don't know if there was a great desire for part-by-part discussion. 5
WhiteLeeopard she/her Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chaos said: It is longer than Words of Radiance but I feel the Words of Radiance forum structure made sense and I don't know if there was a great desire for part-by-part discussion. While all that you said makes sense, keep in mind that not as many people were as hyper excited for WoR as they are for Oathbringer (OB?). Brandon has gained many, many fans on the past 2 years. And the forums have also gained a lot more participants. p.s. what time on that day do the chapters come out? Edited August 21, 2017 by WhiteLeeopard 1
Guest Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Chaos said: I would say we make Chapters 1-3 topic, 4-6 topic, etc with the assumption that if you go into the 4-6 topic you've already read the earlier stuff. I'll make an index. My goal is to make these topics and manage the spoilers religiously. I don't think it's necessary to make any other section. Read the chapters before going into the Oathbringer board. It's the spoiler board for a reason. This board doesn't have its topics appear in the topic feed on the site anymore, so I don't think it will be a problem. I think we will have part-by-part topics upon the final release. That's about the best we can do, and no spoilers in topic titles will still be enforced. However, it still may be best to not go into the Oathbringer board until you finish the book. I strongly dislike additional subforums, so I will not be making part-by-part boards. It is longer than Words of Radiance but I feel the Words of Radiance forum structure made sense and I don't know if there was a great desire for part-by-part discussion. Would it be possible for the topics for the part by part threads to be accessible without having to click into the Oathbringer sub-forum? It has been my major source of concern, I will get spoiled just be trying to access to the future-spoiler-free threads as my eyes will inadvertently see thread titles... and we know how these can be spoiler-y. Would a link on the main forum be something doable, so we just have to click and jump into the right thread? I agree with @WhiteLeeopard: a lot of us only started getting involved within the fandom after reading WoR. This release is likely to be harder to manage. @Pagerunner: I'll look into the blog thing. I dunno if this is something I could keep going on a steady basis, but I'll keep it as a possibility.
Chaos he/him Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 1 minute ago, maxal said: Would it be possible for the topics for the part by part threads to be accessible without having to click into the Oathbringer sub-forum? It has been my major source of concern, I will get spoiled just be trying to access to the future-spoiler-free threads as my eyes will inadvertently see thread titles... and we know how these can be spoiler-y. Would a link on the main forum be something doable, so we just have to click and jump into the right thread? I agree with @WhiteLeeopard: a lot of us only started getting involved within the fandom after reading WoR. This release is likely to be harder to manage. @Pagerunner: I'll look into the blog thing. I dunno if this is something I could keep going on a steady basis, but I'll keep it as a possibility. Understandable. Hmmm... let me think. Maybe links in the sidebar of the forum to each of the five topics?
Guest Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Chaos said: Understandable. Hmmm... let me think. Maybe links in the sidebar of the forum to each of the five topics? Yes, I think this would do it: just having a link visible, on the side bar like the new topics section for instance, from the main forum which brings us inside the thread without having to log into the Oathbringer forum. Of course, the threads will be visible for all jumping into the Oathbringer forum, but for those of us, slow/late readers, it may provide a place to discuss the book on a part by part basis. I also think it will be an interesting experience to have the ability to discuss where we think the story is going based on what we have read. How much we figured out in advance, how much we missed, what we predicted and what we didn't.
Guest Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Chaos said: Seems like a good idea to me! Sounds like a good plan to me too
iamstick Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/17/2017 at 7:40 PM, maxal said: After reading all comments, I would suggest starting one topic per excerpt chapter released which means, every Tuesday at around noon, someone ought to create an appropriate thread where we can all jump in as we finish reading them. It would work best in someone were mandated with the task to do it on a consistent basis. I love this plan as it let's us have a focused weekly conversation. Tomorrow's prologue has been out for a while but not in final form. 1
Guest Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, iamstick said: I love this plan as it let's us have a focused weekly conversation. Tomorrow's prologue has been out for a while but not in final form. I don't expect much conversation to be had on the prologue as we already had most of it, even if the chapter was not final. Next week is when we really get unreleased material.
+eveorjoy she/her Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 13 hours ago, maxal said: I don't expect much conversation to be had on the prologue as we already had most of it, even if the chapter was not final. Next week is when we really get unreleased material. Well if you look at the prologue's thread it appears we had a few more words to say about it.
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