Calderis he/him Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 So in @Darth Revan's thread in the Warbreaker forum, Vasher and Wit's lack of color aura came up. Possible reasons presented in the thread 1. Some property of Nalthis causes the aura to emerge. 2. Non-Nalthians are unable to perceive it. And I suddenly had a thought that I can't find an answer to. Do drabs lose perception of the color aura from Breath? If so, seeing as all Nalthians are born with a Breath, could the perception of the aura be a product of possessing a Breath? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Vivenna is a drab at one point. I dont remember if she mentions anything about color auras then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Oh i just posted this on the other thread, but Quote Q: Why is Hoid’s color aura from his Breaths not noticed by anyone on Roshar? Are the characters just not used to noticing that sort of thing, or does he not have one? A: There are a mixture of reasons. Not the least is Hoid's control over investiture. Q: Would someone with breath be able to notice his aura on Roshar? E.g. Vasher? A: Various methods of detecting investiture would still work, depending on how good a job Hoid is doing of suppressing his. So sounds like it's actively suppressed by both of them but that it should otherwise still be visible on Roshar? Also it's possible that drabs can't see it but non-Nalthians without Breath can. I don't know the answer to either though. And I feel I should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted June 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Extesian said: Oh i just posted this on the other thread, but So sounds like it's actively suppressed by both of them but that it should otherwise still be visible on Roshar? Also it's possible that drabs can't see it but non-Nalthians without Breath can. I don't know the answer to either though. And I feel I should. I was just about to copy that over and credit you when you posted here. I think that the life sense provided by breath would make it easier to detect while someone is suppressing it (however Hoid is doing it...) and Vasher is either out, or storing his breath in something. But the aura should be visible anywhere. At least that's what I get out of that WoB. Because it basically says Hoid is actively doing something to blend in, so the aura should be visible if he wasn't. Edit: @ExtesianI also have to thank you for wrapping up the premise of this thread so quickly. Just a hair faster in the other one and I wouldn't have made this one Edited June 30, 2017 by Calderis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 @Calderis I don't think it's so easily wrapped up though. About the WoB specifically. I agree with the likely conclusions but they're not certain. Firstly, in terms of people without Breath, we don't know they could see Hoid's aura even without him suppressing it. There is a mix of factors. One of those could be the planet, or their lack of Breath. There is wiggle room there. Secondly, in terms of people with Breath, he's noted that in the general context of abilities that detect investiture, that doesn't indicate so much that an aura is visible to someone below the 1st heightening on Roshar, it's more about the general ability for investiture detection to recognize Hoid. By the wording at least. So I think that WoB helps but doesn't settle it. And I still want to know if a drab will see the aura of a person with many Breaths. Surely we know whether drabs see the aura around a Returned? It seems like a strange thing to not know so there must be a ready answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Siri did not notice Treledees to have (at least) First Heightening until she thought he is reading her emotions too easily. Then she had to pay attention to the things nearby (grass IIRC) and saw its colors to be more saturated near him which confirmed that he has Breaths. And she's from a world where there is Breath and she knew about auras and Heightenings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 People on Nalthis has usually at least a single Breath, so they have an advantage on notice the Biocromatic Aura. So in a world of "drab" it's harder to spot a Biocromatic Aura. Add to this the not really colorful envirorment of the Shattered Plains and the cloth both Vasher and Wit use on Roshar. For someone without a specific knowledge it's hard as hell to spot something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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