Shard Reproduction

[Kered he/him]

I've been looking and I can't find an answer, though admittedly, you guys usually can answer questions quicker than my searches lol. So, the questions simple. Can a vessel holding a Shard reproduce in the conventional means? Either with another vessel, or a mortal/human/etc. It's unlikely I know, but the idea of a child born from a shard and mortal seems intriguing.  

[+Extesian he/him]

This was actually the topic of one of my first threads. Yeah they can. Umm guessing a Shard can actually rematerialize their body?

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PALADIN BREWER

Are Shard vessels able to have children?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yes they are.

PALADIN BREWER

Even Sazed, with his body being a eunuch?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yes, though technically all of Scadrial are the children of Preservation and Ruin.

 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Umm...I'm not sure. If the Vessel could manifest as their physical form, then I'm sure it could happen. But I don't think that could happen. I'll let some other theorists come and answer this one.

[Kered he/him]

It terms of pure storytelling, it's defiantly a interesting concept. 

From what I've seen, we don't have enough information to say if it's impossible or possible. But that's why I posted it here lol, there is a lot more people better at connecting the dots on here than me. 

[Andy92]

I think I've read somewhere that the amount of Investiture someone consumes when they ascend is too much for a mortal body to handle, so the physical side kind of merges into the spiritual aspect of the Investiture. It may be possible for a Shardholder to manifest themselves in a physical body in some way, but I'm not sure if it's been done in the books. 

[Calderis he/him]

I would argue against it. The Vessels bodies have been completely disintegrated and are held in stasis by the investiture. I think (and I want to emphasize the speculation here) despite the ability to manipulate the physical realm, that an actual body is to limited to contain the breadth of their cognitive and spiritual aspects. The very process that deprives them of their original body, keeps them from manifesting physically. Every instance we've seen of a Shard interacting with an individual has been illusiory. 

[GildedBear]

There's another wob out there that says that sazed's body still has his feruchemy.  My guess is that if they can manifest their body then they could reproduce by conventional means but their body would need to remain manifested for the entire process; which makes it much easier for males.  That being said, manifesting their physical bodies seems very close to giving up shard entirely to me.

[Yata he/him]

I always saw the "body destruction" someone experience when someone Ascend more like if the Shard's investiture infused it with so much power to go beyond the natural Investiture limit in an object (and it's not really hard to imagine with that Magnitude of Investiture) and the body is simply still there...spread among the Shard's Investiture.

If this interpretation is right, a Vessel would need to Invest so much of his power to make his body "re-spawn" but we don't even know if this is even possible without give up the Shard itself (it was one of my Question for brandon if I have the chance to ask it to him)

[Yuoaman]

If the power of a single Shard in the hands of an inexperienced Vessel could reshape a planet's entire ecology and change its orbit I imagine creating the necessary parts for reproduction (or even just willing the results of reproduction into existence) wouldn't be too difficult for them.

[Yata he/him]

5 minutes ago, FiveLate said:

@Yata. I know you are not American or British...so this defence may not translate over...... I always thought of a shards "body" like being in a Star Trek teleport....It is in the buffer...does not exist physically at this time...but can be reconstructed to specifications immediately at will.

Yeah often my english is a bit weird.

Indeed you may have right about the Vessels' physical body. We know too little to try to understand this with a good precision.

My interpretation works with the multiple descriptions of the stress the Investiture places upon the physical body, but other explainations are indeed valid