The Reason there are no Awakening Savants.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

2 minutes ago, Calderis said:

What you say does make sense and my failure to grasp it is kind of embarrassing. 

Oh don't worry, it took me just as many posts to explain it in a way that made sense.

[+Extesian he/him]

Yeah this makes sense to me. A healing compounder’s physical body is entirely temporary, it is constantly being destroyed and restored to match their spiritweb, as filtered by their cognitive aspect. If Miles keeps blowing himself up he’d get so used to the pain that he would kind of stop feeling it. He would then start to think of himself as not feeling pain. That creates a feedback-loop, where each time he doesn’t feel pain, his cognitive aspect becomes more certain that he actually doesn’t feel pain, and then when his body is rebuilt it would eventually get rebuilt without pain receptor because that’s the way he seems himself. I agree Calderis that it’s either extremely hard or impossible for your cognitive aspect to give you something that was never part of your spiritweb. But Connects is right, this is your cognitive aspect refusing to heal part of your physical body to match your spiritweb.

I should note that this is distinct from being a savant. It’s particular to healing magic of course and goes hand-in-hand with being a healing savant, but I don’t think it’s a part of it.  It’s an outcome of the way healing works in the Cosmere I think, rather than a direct outcome of your spiritweb changing from.

[Calderis he/him]

40 minutes ago, Extesian said:

I agree Calderis that it’s either extremely hard or impossible for your cognitive aspect to give you something that was never part of your spiritweb. But Connects is right, this is your cognitive aspect refusing to heal part of your physical body to match your spiritweb.

Yeah, I never considered the possibility of the receptors eventually failing to be regrown, rather than being removed. It would be crazy hard to pull off, but it could definitely work. 

[+Lewis Nethur He/Him]

Wow @The One Who Connects , thanks for weighing in, that's actually a really helpful and insightful explanation; always feels good to walk away from one of these threads feeling like you learned something. 

[The One Who Connects he/him]

Just now, hwiles said:

always feels good to walk away from one of these threads feeling like you learned something. 

I've learned enough from these discussions, seemed like it was my turn to teach for once

[Oversleep]

13 hours ago, hwiles said:

Do you not count this as savantism, or is it just too specialized a scenario to generally be considered?  Honestly curious about your thoughts, as you seem well-versed in the subject.

I'd need to do some more WoB hunting before I say anything more. I have few models in mind; the thing is, Resonance is quite important in all of them (from my point of view).

[+Lewis Nethur He/Him]

14 minutes ago, Oversleep said:

I'd need to do some more WoB hunting before I say anything more. I have few models in mind; the thing is, Resonance is quite important in all of them (from my point of view).

I hadn't considered it being a resonance thing before, that could actually make sense.

[Calderis he/him]

Resonance is an awesome touch to the magic system and I love seeing it work, but damnation do I hate it for theorizing. 

I'm tempted to discount anything as a resonance unless it's either confirmed or is the only possible explanation for an ability. 

Resonances are just to random to try to account for. Their complete separation from the powers that cause them makes them impossible to predict, and almost as difficult to verify. 

Yes, Shallan's mnemonic ability aids Lightweaving, but what about Lightweaving and Transformation causes it? How in damnation do Gravitation and Adhesion improve a Windrunners squires?

There's just to much separation between the abilities and the resonant effects to determine. I'm inclined to argue against Miles painlessness primarily because it's too well aligned with F-gold. 

Edited June 22, 2017 by Calderis