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I was just walking down my driveway when I thought of this. Every one knows stormlight glows, it's light. But spren, honorblades, the shardplate of the Knights Radiant, those all glow two. Would they glow because of stormlight, or the Roshar version of Bioluminescence? I mean, it makes since for the honorblades to glow as they are technically spren, but why do they glow?

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53 minutes ago, Smart Sloth said:

I mean, it makes since for the honorblades to glow as they are technically spren, but why do they glow?

Normal Shardblades are Spren, the Honorblades aren't. But otherwise, I think they glow because they are invested(the Stormlight glows through them, so to speak)

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The Stormlight glows because It's a "lightbulb to the Spiritual Realm".

It isn't related to the Stormlight itself leaking away from his container (gemstone or Human user) as also a perfect container without leaking would glow.

The glowing comes from the Spiritual Realm and the Shardblades and Honorblades glow for their amount of Investiture and connection to the highter Realms too (probably)

PS: notice that not every Spren's type glows...Just look at Pattern or Ivory

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15 minutes ago, platnumkid said:

Are you quoting a WoB here or coining a phrase?  

Except my mistyping, yes.

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ALTERODENT

With Stormlight, the better the gem is cut, the less Stormlight it leaks, and the longer it holds its charge. If a gem was perfectly cut, on a molecular scale, would it leak Stormlight at all?

BRANDON SANDERSON

In a theoretical flawless gem, then no it would not.

ALTERODENT

Would it actually give off light?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Ooh... Theoretically no it would not, but it's not what you're thinking...

ALTERODENT

No no no, that’s not what I’m thinking, I figured that’s something totally different.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Well, actually, it probably would still give off light, because it's drawing out of the Spiritual Realm. So I’d say it still lights, but it doesn't leak. The leaking is not where the illumination is coming from. The illumination is coming from a direct... It's basically a lightbulb screwed into the Spiritual Realm.

 

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Thanks Yata.  So it seems like the stormlight as the vessel of investiture on Roshar glows because it is a direct connection to the Spiritual Realm.  This explains why people glow in the Cognitive, the soul or whatever connection to the Spiritual that everyone has can more clearly be seen through the thought of ones body than their actual flesh in the physical.  Also explains why metals glow in the cognitive on Scadrial as metals are the vessels for investiture there, but i guess physical metal on Scadrial is too dense to see the investiture glow.

To loop this back to OP:

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INTERVIEW: Sep, 2012

Cosmere Q&A - 17th Shard (Verbatim)

PRICKLYBEAR

Is there a functional/structural difference between modern-day Shardplate and the stuff the Radiants wore? Did the Radiants have to use infused gems to keep their suits going or could they just 'breathe in' Stormlight and feed the suit off of their 'inhaled' reserves?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Something is different. You will find out what.

If the difference is that Radiants didn't use gem stones to power their plate this could explain why their plate glowed.  Radiant's plate were directly powered and therefore directly invested and the glow could be seen, modern plate powered by the gems have the gems hidden and cant be seen.

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14 hours ago, platnumkid said:

Also explains why metals glow in the cognitive on Scadrial as metals are the vessels for investiture there, but i guess physical metal on Scadrial is too dense to see the investiture glow.

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Metals on Scadrial aren't any more invested than other metals in the Cosmere. The glowing is probably because of the importance of metals with respect to Scadrial. The effect of the planet links the spiritual realm to the metals more closely than other materials, resulting in the glow. The glow is the power of the spiritual leaking through, like how stormlight creates a glow from the spiritual.

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15 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said:

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Metals on Scadrial aren't any more invested than other metals in the Cosmere. The glowing is probably because of the importance of metals with respect to Scadrial. The effect of the planet links the spiritual realm to the metals more closely than other materials, resulting in the glow. The glow is the power of the spiritual leaking through, like how stormlight creates a glow from the spiritual.

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A spren can take any solid form, but need to be made by metal, Wyndle spoke in the end of novel regarding the possibility for a KR to have a 'shardbow' and the he don't know how recreate the string.  

so metal are a focus for all magic in the cosmere

 

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@Fulminato It's not really in that way.

Simply It seems that Investiture in solid forum took naturally Metallic nature as substance.

If you think about It's also plausible. Many many other solid materials are composed of many different things. The metal instead could be made of omogenous matter.

So if there is a solid form from Investiture without further manipulation. It Will be Metallic in nature (note that "metal" seems to have a looser meaning in the Cosmere)

PS: if i could ask. Where do you come from? Because your Nick is peculiar

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12 minutes ago, Yata said:

@Fulminato It's not really in that way.

Simply It seems that Investiture in solid forum took naturally Metallic nature as substance.

If you think about It's also plausible. Many many other solid materials are composed of many different things. The metal instead could be made of omogenous matter.

So if there is a solid form from Investiture without further manipulation. It Will be Metallic in nature (note that "metal" seems to have a looser meaning in the Cosmere)

PS: if i could ask. Where do you come from? Because your Nick is peculiar

don't want pass the equation metal = investiture, but metals are some focus for all shard-made magic system not only the scandrial's three metallic art.

PS: italy, and my nick is a italian word. in fact a very very bad pun, but the nick struck aeons ago, so I keep him.

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2 hours ago, Fulminato said:

don't want pass the equation metal = investiture, but metals are some focus for all shard-made magic system not only the scandrial's three metallic art.

Actually I don't want to say metal=investiture ALWAYS (well of course everything is made of Investiture, metals included but it's not what are we talking about of course).

Simply when Investiture turn into solid form in its purer way. It becomes a Metal... A GodMetal like it will be called in another books. Shardblade are basically made of an alloy of Tanavastium& Cultivation's name-ium.

But this is really OT, so I will stop this branch of discussion in the topic.

2 hours ago, Fulminato said:

PS: italy, and my nick is a italian word. in fact a very very bad pun, but the nick struck aeons ago, so I keep him.

Yeah, it's what I thought by the nick plus the avatar ;)

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