Ren he/him Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Hello, I found this section in Brandon's official site where you can read deleted scenes from his books. So my question is can we consider them as part of the books or they are something that shouldn't be taken into consideration?http://brandonsanderson.com/the-way-of-kings-prime-jeksonsonvallano/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether he/him Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Some parts might be the same. Brandon recycles a lot, even when starting more or less from scratch, like he did with the Way of Kings. He has stated, though, that he specifically will not release his first attempt at writing the Way of Kings (as he has done for Mistborn) because it contains heavy spoilers for the first five-book arc of the Stormlight Archive. The teaser chapter with Szeth, though, was fine to release because both Szeth and "Prime Taravangian" have gone through major changes since then. Neither character is really the same one in this early version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter he/him Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Some parts might be the same. Brandon recycles a lot, even when starting more or less from scratch, like he did with the Way of Kings. He has stated, though, that he specifically will not release his first attempt at writing the Way of Kings (as he has done for Mistborn) because it contains heavy spoilers for the first five-book arc of the Stormlight Archive. The teaser chapter with Szeth, though, was fine to release because both Szeth and "Prime Taravangian" have gone through major changes since then. Neither character is really the same one in this early version. Actually what he said is he won't release it until it is no longer spoilery. Same with Dragonsteel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether he/him Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Actually what he said is he won't release it until it is no longer spoilery. Same with Dragonsteel. Oh! I intended to write that. It somehow got lost between some copy-pasting. But thanks!=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon he/him Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I decided to take from it that Truth was a code of ethics that Szeth violated or is said to be apart from. Some people still don't accept that for some reason, but I think he would have changed the title if it was not the same. Other than that, it appears that really nothing can be taken without something else discrediting its accuracy, not that my Truth decision isn't also an assumption.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlehrma Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Most likely Szeth claimed a thing to be true in direct opposition to the religious beliefs of the Shin religious leaders. Specifically, that the voidbringers are real and a desolation is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromptj he/him Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Brandon often reuses terms and names that he likes but changes their meaning. If you ever read the Mythwalker chapters and the Aether of the Night, he uses Amberite in both of them but they are quite different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon he/him Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Most likely Szeth claimed a thing to be true in direct opposition to the religious beliefs of the Shin religious leaders. Specifically, that the voidbringers are real and a desolation is coming. I think the Shin are a little more collected as a society than "cast away those who lie or contradict us." The tone of the merchant that Rysn meets also suggests that they have not seen someone like Szeth (implied) and he (rather darkly) hopes that nobody will ever be like him again. I don't think that reaction would occur for something like a heretic unless Szeth was immensely influential. Brandon often reuses terms and names that he likes but changes their meaning. If you ever read the Mythwalker chapters and the Aether of the Night, he uses Amberite in both of them but they are quite different You are reffering to two very seperate and unpublished works. I am talking about a rough draft of a published work that we now have that uses the same term in the same context but has not yet explained it in the current text. I wouldn't call one incident "often" either. Additionally, Brandon has mentioned taking pieces of Mythwalker specifically and putting it into other texts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromptj he/him Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Is the deleted chapter from the first draft, or the original? Because I believe the original was almost as different from the current edition as Mythwalker was as Warbreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom he/him Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Warbreaker may be more similar to Mythwalker than the Way of Kings was to its old version. The Jek deleted scenes are probably the most similar scenes to what was eventually published. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondMind he/him Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I decided to take from it that Truth was a code of ethics that Szeth violated or is said to be apart from. Some people still don't accept that for some reason, but I think he would have changed the title if it was not the same. Other than that, it appears that really nothing can be taken without something else discrediting its accuracy, not that my Truth decision isn't also an assumption.... Bloodfalcon, there's a quote in one of the Szeth chapters that he was "exiled from the Valley of Truth," which is probably why people think it's different (or more) than just a code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Bloodfalcon, there's a quote in one of the Szeth chapters that he was "exiled from the Valley of Truth," which is probably why people think it's different (or more) than just a code. Valley of Truth being a Shin holy site / really anything would make sense though. If he didn't follow the code or drastically defied Truth, he would be banished. It doesn't really change anything because we know he was banished from all of Shinovar until he is sent back or dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Warbreaker may be more similar to Mythwalker than the Way of Kings was to its old version. The Jek deleted scenes are probably the most similar scenes to what was eventually published.I got the impression that Mythwalker was more or less entirely different from Warbreaker except for Siri and Vivanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I got the impression that Mythwalker was more or less entirely different from Warbreaker except for Siri and Vivanna. Part of the ending was also the same. But yeah, the original version of The Way of Kings was very different from the published version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromptj he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Was the magic system for Mistborn Prime similar to that of Warbreaker? I seem to remember seeing Hightenings in the extract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I don't think so. It's been a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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