Mason Wheeler Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 Has anyone thought to ask Brandon yet, what biological purpose do gemhearts serve? They're obviously not actually hearts, (blood-pumping organs,) so what do they do? Why do they grow within some greatshells?
0 Blightsong he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Mason Wheeler said: Has anyone thought to ask Brandon yet, what biological purpose do gemhearts serve? They're obviously not actually hearts, (blood-pumping organs,) so what do they do? Why do they grow within some greatshells? As far as we know, they play a role in how Rosharan life forms symbiosis with Spren. Think of them as biological fabrials.
0 teknopathetic he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 I really want to know if Gemhearts can hold other investiture? Taldain Sunlight? Mist? Bits of the Dor?
0 Spoolofwhool Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 What holds stormlight seems to be a product of stormlight, not the gems/vessels.
0 teknopathetic he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 Well the Gems can hold investiture inside them. If all investiture is sort of the same, it makes sense that gems could hold certain forms. Taldain Sand and Breath can be powered by Stormlight. The powers are cross compatible in certain instances.
0 Yata he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 I think the Gemheart are a biolocial tool to help the GreatShell's Spren bond. Probably a real good one definition is "biolocial Fabrial" as @Blightsong said (also if this definition has some weird ramifications). About the possibility of keeping Investiture in Polestone regardless of the Investiture's source...I am really doubtful, to me the Polestones' ability to hold stormlight is something internal to the Stormlight's nature...But of course no actual proofs
0 Mason Wheeler Posted January 15, 2017 Author Posted January 15, 2017 Interesting idea, but if they're for the spren bond, then why do skyeels and Ryshadium not have gemhearts? 1
0 Yata he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Mason Wheeler said: Interesting idea, but if they're for the spren bond, then why do skyeels and Ryshadium not have gemhearts? I think more "advanced" species may bypass this bait for spren (like the human do) but honestly it's a weak argument. There is a theory about the Greatshell as helper in the desolation for Cultivation, growing Polestone to be used by the Radiant...It's a possiblity, I don't like it but it is a possibility
0 Blightsong he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Mason Wheeler said: Interesting idea, but if they're for the spren bond, then why do skyeels and Ryshadium not have gemhearts? Do we know that Skyeels and Ryshadium don't have gemhearts?
0 Spoolofwhool Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 8 hours ago, teknopathetic said: Well the Gems can hold investiture inside them. If all investiture is sort of the same, it makes sense that gems could hold certain forms. Taldain Sand and Breath can be powered by Stormlight. The powers are cross compatible in certain instances. You're assuming it's a nature of the gems to hold investiture and not a nature of stormlight to be held in gems. We don't know enough to say for certain, but judging by how most forms of investiture we've seen seem to be held by different vessels and react differently in the same type of vessels, it seems to me to be more a product of stormlight. 1 hour ago, Blightsong said: Do we know that Skyeels and Ryshadium don't have gemhearts? I haven't seen anything which says otherwise.
0 Mason Wheeler Posted January 15, 2017 Author Posted January 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Blightsong said: Do we know that Skyeels and Ryshadium don't have gemhearts? Occam's Razor. If they did, it's reasonable to assume that someone would have mentioned them. We should be seeing people farming skyeels, for example, instead of them just being a curiosity of a wild animal.
0 Jondesu he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mason Wheeler said: Occam's Razor. If they did, it's reasonable to assume that someone would have mentioned them. We should be seeing people farming skyeels, for example, instead of them just being a curiosity of a wild animal. The gemhearts of skyeels could be just too tiny to be worthwhile, but I agree it would likely be known. I suspect the reason Greatshells have them and other species do not isn't just because of a spren bond, but because they need to hold Stormlight in them (perhaps sitting out and pupating during a highstorm even charges it the first time) because they grow so much larger than even the gravity of the planet should be allowing. It provides them extra strength/durability so they can even exist in sizes like they do, with the fast movement they're capable of. It's like an innate Nahel bond, with some of the same benefits.
0 Blightsong he/him Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 I think we should be careful assuming things (that are pretty likely) are not the case simply because they haven't been mentioned.
0 teknopathetic he/him Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) On 2017. 1. 15. at 11:55 PM, Spoolofwhool said: You're assuming it's a nature of the gems to hold investiture and not a nature of stormlight to be held in gems. We don't know enough to say for certain, but judging by how most forms of investiture we've seen seem to be held by different vessels and react differently in the same type of vessels, it seems to me to be more a product of stormlight. I haven't seen anything which says otherwise. I now have a reddit message WOB on this. I asked "could gemhearts store investiture from Taldainic Sunlight or other versions of investiture? His answer: "This is an excellent question. I haven't planned to talk about this yet, because it leads to all kinds of cans of worms, but you're asking the right questions. So I guess this is a very polite RAFO, but hopefully an encouraging one. " Edited January 18, 2017 by teknopathetic
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Has anyone thought to ask Brandon yet, what biological purpose do gemhearts serve? They're obviously not actually hearts, (blood-pumping organs,) so what do they do? Why do they grow within some greatshells?
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