Silverlight shard?

[Steeldancer]

Ok if at this point in the cosmere the only way for people to worldhop is through perpendicularities. And silverlight is chalk full of worldhoppers, so wherever they are, I'm presuming in a place we haven't seen yet, they must have a perpendicularity. Which by extension means they either have a shard there, or a large effect from some shard, maybe Ambition actually died there and created one. I'm not good at finding WoB, so if someone could prove/disprove/ adjust this theory that would be wonderful.

[Yata]

It's possible but they may also have built Silverlight in a place relative close to many Perpendicularities without having one on their zone.

Silverlight is already in the Cognitive Realm, therefore they only need to walk (or use better method) to reach almost all the rest of the Cosmere's CR

[Pagerunner]

It's a good thought, and I think I agree with you that there is a Shard in Silverlight, but there's a bit of a flaw in your logic. Perpendicularities are the way that people go from the Physical Realm to the Cognitive Realm; once they're in the Cognitive Realm, they can walk from planet to planet. Silverlight, however, is already located in the Cognitive Realm, so they don't need a Shardpool.

I'd take a bit of a different approach, and say that interstellar space in Shadesmar is barren without a Shard (like we saw in Secret History), so for a city to exist out there, they will need to find a Shard. Ambition's remains could be one candidate for that, and then there is also another Shard that isn't located on a planet. Either of them could form the 'foundation' to build Silverlight on.

But, either way, I don't think it's unusual to assume that a place like Silverlight would need a Shard to exist.

[Steeldancer]

Ok revised idea- again we have 6 shards yet to be found so what it one of these day is a scholarly shard? And purposely created silverlight? Now I agree it is entirely possible that they could be based on the survival shard or the remains of ambition but I want to speculate a bit here 

[HoidvsVoid]

You might want to combine your last two posts. Double posting is frowned upon here.

[Tazren]

I've always liked the idea that there'd be a shard called Enlightenment, whose Intent drives the holder towards understanding objective truths and promoting civil discourse. That feels like it'd work well for a Shard associated with Silverlight. 

Enlightenment could also combine well with other Shards, like Honor (Justice), Dominion (enlightened despotism), Autonomy (self-reflection/spritual enlightenment). Could be decently opposed by Odium. 

[+Extesian]

On 07/12/2016 at 0:39 AM, Pagerunner said:

It's a good thought, and I think I agree with you that there is a Shard in Silverlight, but there's a bit of a flaw in your logic. Perpendicularities are the way that people go from the Physical Realm to the Cognitive Realm; once they're in the Cognitive Realm, they can walk from planet to planet. Silverlight, however, is already located in the Cognitive Realm, so they don't need a Shardpool.

I'd take a bit of a different approach, and say that interstellar space in Shadesmar is barren without a Shard (like we saw in Secret History), so for a city to exist out there, they will need to find a Shard. Ambition's remains could be one candidate for that, and then there is also another Shard that isn't located on a planet. Either of them could form the 'foundation' to build Silverlight on.

But, either way, I don't think it's unusual to assume that a place like Silverlight would need a Shard to exist.

Just for the relevant WoB, where it definitely sounds like Silverlight has no perpendicularity (it COULD but the strong implication is that it doesn't)

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QUESTION

Does Silverlight have a permanent Perpendicularity?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Silverlight has...weird. So I’m gonna give a RAFO to that.

QUESTION

Cause, it’s got a physical constellation map. So they’ve gotta go to the Physical somehow right?

BRANDON SANDERSON

No, no, no. That can be in the Cognitive Realm.

ARGENT

The constellation map can be a picture from the Cognitive?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Well, yeah, I mean, it can be a picture in the Cognitive. That is a picture that exists in Silverlight.

ARGENT

Right, sure, but they need to be somewhere to view those things.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Right, I didn’t say that that’s from the perspective Silverlight, but the picture is hanging there.

QUESTION

Is there actually anything on the Physical end of Silverlight?

BRANDON SANDERSON

That’s the RAFO. There can’t be a Perpen--well, there could be a Perpendicularity, but then you’d have to go someplace in the Physical, and it gets all... it’s really weird.

I too assume there must be a Shard, the remnants of a Shard or some large source of investiture, but as Brandon says it's weird so there could be another explanation.

[Darkness Ascendant]

On 17/02/2017 at 8:46 AM, Extesian said:

Just for the relevant WoB, where it definitely sounds like Silverlight has no perpendicularity (it COULD but the strong implication is that it doesn't)

I too assume there must be a Shard, the remnants of a Shard or some large source of investiture, but as Brandon says it's weird so there could be another explanation.

Silverlight exists only in the cognitive realm

[DocHoliday]

On 2/16/2017 at 4:46 PM, Extesian said:

Just for the relevant WoB, where it definitely sounds like Silverlight has no perpendicularity (it COULD but the strong implication is that it doesn't)

I too assume there must be a Shard, the remnants of a Shard or some large source of investiture, but as Brandon says it's weird so there could be another explanation.

"There can't be a perpendicular...well there could be."

This says to me there isn't a perpendicularity on Silverlight. There could be, but there is something large and obvious in BS mind that stops it.

"And it gets all weird." Like, say Sel? There ARE perpendicularity there but they're inaccessible due to the Dor manifesting on the CR. Which might lend itself, to make one say "there's no perpendicularity on Sel." When it fact there is.

Could there be a similarity between Sel and Silverlight?

Also, the main question Argent asked is ,"is  anything on the Physical end of Silverlight?"

"Youd have to go someplace physical, and it gets all weird..."

Being that Silverlight resides in the CR, and assuming that you have a perpendicularity there, you should be able to enter an area relatively close to Silverlight in the Physical. Jasnah dosnt appear on Scadrial  when Transporting for instance. 

What if instead of "dropping" straight down into the Physical Realm, a worldhopper instead falls into a "chute/slide" that redirects them elsewhere into the Cosmere?

[Jondesu]

8 hours ago, DocHoliday said:

"Youd have to go someplace physical, and it gets all weird..."

I would suspect what he's referencing there is that Silverlight likely doesn't coincide with a physical location that you could reasonably worldhop to, with their current understanding.  If it's basically in no-man's-land between planets, then a perpendicularity would drop them into space, but because of the way space is compressed in the Cognitive Realm, even that would be really inexact possibly, and would likely kill them without the proper preparations and equipment or magic anyways.