Quick Fix Game 20: Summitmist Manor

[Stick. she/her]

Well wow. Eight villagers dead in C4. I don't really know what's going on but I'm going to vote on either Rae or Len. I'm on mobile rn, so later.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I would like to lay claim to the copy of "Bible of the deep ones."

I will give [5 gold] each to  Stick, Sart, Arinian, JUQ and Assassin. That 25 gold was supposed to go to Alvron, who won my bet. So i shall instead give it to the people who attempted to keep him alive, however futilely.

As for suspicions. . . I currently have none that I am willing to voice. I have 7 people that i am watching, and once they've all made a post (Or if they haven't by their normal activity times) I'll toss a vote on the most suspicious one and say why.

EDIT: Auto-defenestration, ah, that brings back memories.

Edited December 17, 2016 by A Joe in the Bush

[Magestar he/him]

Could I have the [Black Cowl], and the Ebony Capped Staff?

If someone else want's the Ebony Capped Staff or Cowl, I would be willing to give one of them up for [All The Cheese].  

And, I'm going to put my vote back on Elenion.  I think that it's most likely that he's an Elim, considering past events.  

Assuming we have between 4 and 5 elims, I'm begining to get a little worried.  I'd love if some people would post suspicions and do some more analysis.  I'll do some more myself a little later on.

My top suspicions right now are Len, Rae, Joe, and Kynedath, in about that order, I think.  Joe and Rae might swap places a bit.  It might just be Rae's playstyle that's throwing me off as well.

[Nyali she/her]

My vote's going right back on Elenion. He's still the most suspicious person, I think.

[Stick. she/her]

The previous two votes have certainly made it easier for me to choose between Rae and Elenion. He seemed to eager with voting on Alv the other cycle anyway. And why did the elims kill Kasimir? Was it because he was close to figuring out something? Something like, idk, Elenion being an elim? Or maybe they killed him just 'cause he's an experienced player and they wanted to get rid of him lol I don't know 

Edit: @Kipper if you're a townie, I'd suggest you post some game related discussion before you die of inactivity

Edited December 17, 2016 by I_am_a_Stick
Something's up with the font size and I can't fix it :/

[Elenion he/him]

Well, I really don't have much to say to defend myself. So far I've instigated a massive bandwagon on Ecth and helped lynch Alv, both of whom were good. But I can tell you that in lynching me, you are playing right into the elims' hands. They probably killed Kas to both silence him and to frame me, and in lynching me you're just doing their dirty work for them and saving them a kill.

Can I get the wine and cheese?

[Nyali she/her]

14 minutes ago, Elenion said:

Can I get the wine and cheese?

... do you really need ALL of the cheese?

[Guest]

Townread on Elenion. 

My vote is going on Nyali, for gut vibes. I don't like her vote on Elenion or general pattern of posting.

I'll be back later, when I get some stuff done. Just slept for about 13.5 hours; thanks finals.

[Arinian]

Hmm... all previous turn really confuses me. From what I've seen previous cycle cleaned Stick little bit for me... but ohh, even don't know. If guess that stick is village then I think that Sart can be elim. Also I get more suspicious of Len but three votes that he get today all goes from people that I suspected on previous turns. Also I want to ask Stick why text not in the same font(How It's happened )? So for now I gonna traditionally vote for Stick but I'm warn you that later I can change my vote on Len or Sart(Most likely Sart). But who knows what gonna happen?

[Nyali she/her]

44 minutes ago, Kipper said:

My vote is going on Nyali, for gut vibes. I don't like her vote on Elenion or general pattern of posting.

Okay, but you need to put my name in red if you're voting for me.

[Stick. she/her]

18 minutes ago, Arinian said:

Hmm... all previous turn really confuses me. From what I've seen previous cycle cleaned Stick little bit for me... but ohh, even don't know. If guess that stick is village then I think that Sart can be elim. Also I get more suspicious of Len but three votes that he get today all goes from people that I suspected on previous turns. Also I want to ask Stick why text not in the same font(How It's happened )? So for now I gonna traditionally vote for Stick but I'm warn you that later I can change my vote on Len or Sart(Most likely Sart). But who knows what gonna happen?

Well, the font style is pretty much the same, the font size, however, is messed up, yeah. And no, it's not because I copy/pasted it from an elim doc I've been conspirating in :-P(I don't even know how that'd change the font size tbh) Idk why it's like the way it is, but I suspect it's got something to do with how I was too lazy to change the font colour for my vote and instead copy/pasted it from Nyali's.

But I'd recommend you change your vote...Like seriously

The elims might show up at the last moment with their Elim-y minds and try to steer the lynch some other way with their Elim-y votes 

Edited December 17, 2016 by I_am_a_Stick

[Guest]

Thanks Nyali. 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Vote Tally:
Stick (1): Elenion
Elenion (3): Magestar, Nyali, Stick. and Joe!

Technically not Nyali yet (1): Kipper

 

9 hours ago, Magestar said:

My top suspicions right now are Len, Rae, Joe, and Kynedath, in about that order, I think.  Joe and Rae might swap places a bit.  It might just be Rae's playstyle that's throwing me off as well.

Can I ask why?

2 hours ago, Kipper said:

Townread on Elenion. 

My vote is going on Nyali, for gut vibes. I don't like her vote on Elenion or general pattern of posting.

Can we get some expansive clarifications on both sentences? And, like others have said, don't forget to red Nyali's name

1 hour ago, Arinian said:

Hmm... all previous turn really confuses me. From what I've seen previous cycle cleaned Stick little bit for me... but ohh, even don't know. If guess that stick is village then I think that Sart can be elim. Also I get more suspicious of Len but three votes that he get today all goes from people that I suspected on previous turns. <clipped> So for now I gonna traditionally vote for Stick but I'm warn you that later I can change my vote on Len or Sart(Most likely Sart). But who knows what gonna happen?

Now see, you're one of the people I've been watching. This vote doesn't make you any more suspicious, but it does confuse me with it's lack of logic. You're less certain that Stick is an Eliminator now, and you think that if Stick is a Villager, then Sart is an Eliminator. But you're voting on Stick anyway? Doesn't it make more sense to vote on Sart? This make me think you're just wanting Stick and Sart dead. 

And then there's the vote on Elenion, who you say you're suspicious of, but you're not going to vote for him because he has three votes already. I find you more suspicious than Len, and would like to lynch you today. But I'm not going to because there's too much movement to lynch Len. Len is, however, My third biggest suspicion. I read back through the first cycle, and if you Consider Elenion's actions in the light of wanting to get rid of his villager brother in order to avoid conflicts at home, they make a lot more sense if you assume Elenion is a Eliminator than a villager. But they also make sense if he's a villager who doesn't know his brother's alignment. Point is, I have a weak suspicion that you and Len are both Eliminators. It's not a very strong theory, and I woul like to gather more info about it, but I on't have anyone esle to lynch right now, so I might as well just confirm it through the lynch.

The point is, I would rather lynch Arinian today, but I'll lynch Elenion, since he's more likely to be lynched. 

Also, I'm paying a [5 gold] bounty to anyone who votes for Elenion or Arinian.

Edited December 17, 2016 by A Joe in the Bush

[Arraenae]

In one game where Ecth was an elim, Len accidentally saw Ecth's doc and had to be killed by the GM. Len and Ecth definitely have a history of at-home conflicts, but I don't know how strongly that would motivate an elim Len to want to kill his villager brother. I don't think other SE siblings have pushed for each other's deaths because of that before.

[Stick. she/her]

6 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

Vote Tally:
Stick (1): Elenion
Elenion (3): Magestar, Nyali, Stick. and Joe!

Technically not Nyali yet (1): Kipper

Emphasis mine 

It's Arinian* But yeah 

1 minute ago, Arraenae said:

In one game where Ecth was an elim, Len accidentally saw Ecth's doc and had to be killed by the GM. Len and Ecth definitely have a history of at-home conflicts, but I don't know how strongly that would motivate an elim Len to want to kill his villager brother. I don't think other SE siblings have pushed for each other's deaths because of that before.

LG26, yeah? :-P

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Sorry, i missed Arinian's vote when making the tally. But both of them are voting for Stick. And yes. It was LG26.

Vote Tally:
Stick (2):Elenion, Arinian.
Elenion (3): Magestar, Nyali, Stick. and Joe!

Technically not Nyali yet (1): Kipper

[Stick. she/her]

2 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

Sorry, i missed Arinian's vote when making the tally. But both of them are voting for Stick. And yes. It was LG26.

Vote Tally:
Stick (2):Elenion, Arinian.
Elenion (3): Magestar, Nyali, Stick. and Joe!

Technically not Nyali yet (1): Kipper

Len voted on Stink  

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

That, is in fact a vote on Stink. Uh. . .

Vote Tally:
Stink (1): Elenion.
Stick (1): Arinian.
Elenion (3): Magestar, Nyali, Stick.
Technically not Nyali yet (1): Kipper

That kind of take a big part of my argument away. Elenion and Arinian aren't voting together. . . I'm going to retract my vote on Elenion and go back to watching and lurking.

[Arinian]

24 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

And then there's the vote on Elenion, who you say you're suspicious of, but you're not going to vote for him because he has three votes already. I find you more suspicious than Len, and would like to lynch you today. But I'm not going to because there's too much movement to lynch Len. Len is, however, My third biggest suspicion. I read back through the first cycle, and if you Consider Elenion's actions in the light of wanting to get rid of his villager brother in order to avoid conflicts at home, they make a lot more sense if you assume Elenion is a Eliminator than a villager. But they also make sense if he's a villager who doesn't know his brother's alignment. Point is, I have a weak suspicion that you and Len are both Eliminators. It's not a very strong theory, and I woul like to gather more info about it, but I on't have anyone esle to lynch right now, so I might as well just confirm it through the lynch.

The point is, I would rather lynch Arinian today, but I'll lynch Elenion, since he's more likely to be lynched. 

Also, I'm paying a [5 gold] bounty to anyone who votes for Elenion or Arinian.

And for me looks like you taking text from my post and throwing it away. As I said on previous turns I was suspicious of Mage, Stick and Nyali. Mage cause I'm can't understand his motivations. Stick and Nyali cause they just trying to look useful(that how it seems to me). So when on person that you suspect votes other 3 persons that's under your suspicions too, what I should do? And I'm voting on Stick all turns and now It become suspicios(and I gonna use your own logic, ok? You want lynch me more then Len but under present circumstances, it is unlikely(3 votes on Len), so you voting for Len, that's what I'm doing too I'm voting for Stick because there better chance for her to be lynched)? And also every lynch It's information(I think I shouldn't say it because It's obvious). Sooo... you one more person in my suspect list now.

Edited December 17, 2016 by Arinian

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

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And for me looks like you taking text from my post and throwing it away.

Here's the full post:

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Hmm... all previous turn really confuses me. From what I've seen previous cycle cleaned Stick little bit for me... but ohh, even don't know. If guess that stick is village then I think that Sart can be elim. Also I get more suspicious of Len but three votes that he get today all goes from people that I suspected on previous turns. Also I want to ask Stick why text not in the same font(How It's happened )? So for now I gonna traditionally vote for Stick but I'm warn you that later I can change my vote on Len or Sart(Most likely Sart). But who knows what gonna happen?

That boded sentence is the only sentence I cut from your post. Because it's not really part of the argument, or even the game. I didn't throw away anything else.

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As I said on previous turns I was suspicious of Mage, Stick and Nyali. Mage cause I'm can't understand his motivations. Stick and Nyali cause they just trying to look useful(that how i seems to me).

I'm not suspicious of any of these three, but that's not really relevant to this conversation. Normally I would clip this from your post because I'm not responding to it, but since I'm being accused of throwing away arguments, I'll include it and why i don't want to include it.

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So when on person that you suspect votes other 3 persons that's under your suspicions too, what I should do?

K, can i get a clarification of what this is asking?

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And I'm voting on Stick all turns and now It become suspicios?

It's always been suspicious. It's only this turn that I've decided to do something about it. I said earlier  had several people i was watching and waiting for them to post. you were one of them. (And yes, that technically isn't what you said, because I moved the question mark from one end of the parentheses to the other, because I'll respond to the parentheses next.)

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(and I gonna use your own logic, ok?

Ok.

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You want lynch me more then Len but under present circumstances, it is unlikely(3 votes on Len), so you voting for Len, that's what I'm doing too I'm voting for Stick because there better chance for her to be lynched)

Before, my argument was flimsy because i thought there was another vote on Stick. However, that argument was because you said that you were less supicious of Stick now, and were more suspicious of Sart. You said, and I'll quote it again, " If guess that stick is village then I think that Sart can be elim." If you lynch Stick, and he's a villager, will you go after Sart because that will be evidence he's an eliminator? Then why not go after Sart in the first place. If you lynch him and he's an eliminator, then yay! You lynched one eliminator and 1 Villager. But if you lynch one villager in order to prove sart is an eliminator, and then lynch Sart, then you've lynched 1 eliminator and 1 Villager. (Also, I'm not suspicious of Stick or Sart.)

And, now that I know that Elenion and you aren't voting for the same person, it's even more suspicious. You're not voting on Stick because that puts stick at 2 votes to Elenion's 3. Now, I don't know why you're voting for stick still. 

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And also every lynch It's information(I think I shouldn't say it because It's obvious). Sooo... you one more person in my suspect list now.

Yes, but we're rapidly getting to the point where we can no longer afford Purely informational lynches. Which is why I'm gearing up my activity and actually going after people now. 

[Arinian]

4 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

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So when on person that you suspect votes other 3 persons that's under your suspicions too, what I should do?

K, can i get a clarification of what this is asking?

I hope that you will forgive me for my bad english. I mean, I suspect Mage, Nyali, Stick and also Len looked suspicious(but not very strongly suspicious). But when the three people who you suspect are voting together in a row against another suspect... This may raise suspicion of correctness of guesses about their alignment, isn't it?(And also I think I can say that this is my first game so that you can correct me if I understand something in wrong way, and I hope now it's understandable?).

[Stick. she/her]

um..I noticed this earlier and just wanted to ask..why does it say 4 people when it's 3? Is it my iPad lying to me or is this some kinda weird mod power?

Spoiler

 

[Arinian]

1 minute ago, I_am_a_Stick said:

um..I noticed this earlier and just wanted to ask..why does it say 4 people when it's 3? Is it my iPad lying to me or is this some kinda weird mod power?

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Same thing almost in all threads.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

17 minutes ago, Arinian said:

I hope that you will forgive me for my bad english. I mean, I suspect Mage, Nyali, Stick and also Len looked suspicious(but not very strongly suspicious). But when the three people who you suspect are voting together in a row against another suspect... This may raise suspicion of correctness of guesses about their alignment, isn't it?(And also I think I can say that this is my first game so that you can correct me if I understand something in wrong way, and I hope now it's understandable?).

Okay, that actually makes a lot more sense.

13 minutes ago, I_am_a_Stick said:

um..I noticed this earlier and just wanted to ask..why does it say 4 people when it's 3? Is it my iPad lying to me or is this some kinda weird mod power?

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Anonymous users, players who aren't signed in, ect. There are more than just the three looking at the thread.

[Magestar he/him]

1 hour ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

Can I ask why?

Yes.  The combination of your general quietness, you're general, sort of vague helpfulness, (up until recently) and your tone is setting me off.  The same is true for Rae.  

If Len is inno, then I'm going to be pretty suspicious of Nyali.  It'd be nice to kill an Elim, though.  I'm also probably going to die soon, because I'm a contributing villager.

Or maybe they'll just let me live because all my suspicions are wrong.