Keteks

[Kelek he/him]

Mistborn comes, trouble awakened from darkness, from awakened trouble, come Mistborn.

[Jimmy moon]

A shard splinters-replaced by intents-composite is gone-it's composite intent replaced-a splintered shard

[Arcanist Lupus he/him]

Mistborn comes, trouble awakened from darkness, from awakened trouble, come Mistborn.

Keteks have 5 sections. Yours needs one more.

Miscellaneous Ketek:

Howling wind

chilling to the core

hearing the core

of the chilling wind

howling

[FeatherWriter she/her]

I have a friend who is obsessed with Way of Kings and so I decided to try to write her a ketek for her birthday. She talks about how she constantly imagines if she were on Roshar or if the characters came to our world, so I tried to base it on that. What to you guys think?

Adventure stories of words and pages, beyond reality into magic, characters call to her, causing her to call characters' magic into reality, beyond pages and words of stories’ adventures.

[Wisdom he/him]

This seems to be the place for Keteks, so i thought I'd post my feeble attempts here

On the Knights Radiant:

Knights Radiant - brightly shine - Honor - shines brighter - radiant Knight

On Shallan:

Nature changes - truth binds - Shallan - binds truth - changing Nature

This is what comes of being unable to get to sleep .

[Turos]

The ninja waits, watching enemies from the shadows, the shadows that hide death, hiding that shadow of shadows from samurai who are watching, waiting for the ninja...

Water falls from the sky. It rains from darkened, heavy clouds. The clouds sail west. Sailing clouds, heavy clouds. Dark, raining from the sky, falls water.

From my cold heart a silent song, which tune echoes in my lost mind, healing the breaking soul, broken from healing minds lost in echoing tunes, silent songs where cold hearts are from.

Ripples break the water with falling pebbles, jumping fish watching the horizon of the lake, the horizon watches a fish jumping with a pebble, falling with water, breaking the ripples.

Away the sun sets, the moon rises, a battle for the time of day, time for battle, rising as the moon sets the sun away.

Killers kill, healers heal, all things give and receive what they give, healing healers, killing killers.

[Emeralis00 she/her]

Killers kill, healers heal, all things give and receive what they give, healing healers, killing killers.

This one has a certain elegance too it.

[FeatherWriter she/her]

I think there should be some kind of differentiation between how strictly it follows the ketek form. (Sliding scale of Ketek hardness, anyone?)

1. All the words are exactly the same.

2. Changes in pluralization and verb tense.

3. Swaps between the same root words (verbs vs. nouns vs. adjectives vs. adverbs; he hunts, the hunt, a hunting party could be used to switch)

4. Small words and articles added for flow (a, an, of, the, and)

5. Basic form is the same, though some larger words may appear unmirrored.

6. A regular sentence.

So what truly qualifies as a ketek? I feel like the book would cut off at 2, maybe 3, though we only see two keteks and both qualify as 2. The note on keteks specifically says only verb tenses, not the same root word. I'd include 3 (I'm pretty sure my ketek is a 3) just because it lets the end of the ketek be very different from the beginning in meaning, which is cool. I don't even know if a 1 possible, and if it was, I don't know how creative or artistic you could really get. Quite a few of my favorites on here are 4s or 5s, but I definitely think that the higher keteks are impressive.

EDIT: Actually, looking back, I'd say that my ketek was a 2! Look at that! Though I do switch to possessives "stories" to "stories'" but it's the same letters so...

Edited January 11, 2012 by FeatherWriter

[Turos]

This one has a certain elegance too it.

Thanks!

[Wisdom he/him]

Memories of hope shattered, the dreams bitter and cold of glory fading, remembering faded glory, of cold and bitter dreams, the shattered hope of memory.

I was thinking up that one for around 40 minutes on the bus today. It has a certain poignancy to it I feel.

On another note I would like to suggest another addition to Featherwriter's criteria purely for fun - that is if the number of words is itself symmetrical (i.e. 11 words, or 22 words, 33 words etc). If someone can achieve that as well as forming a proper ketek then they are far better at it than I .

EDIT: Edited after Featherwriter's suggestion made me look again at the ketek and decide this time that "the shattered hope of memory" still got the message across. I had previously decided otherwise. (see Turos' quote if you want the previous version )

Edited January 13, 2012 by Wisdom

[Turos]

Memories of hope shattered, the dreams bitter and cold of glory fading, remembering faded glory, of cold and bitter dreams, and the shattered hope of memory.

Wow! I really like the feeling this creates.

On another note I would like to suggest another addition to Featherwriter's criteria purely for fun - that is if the number of words is itself symmetrical (i.e. 11 words, or 22 words, 33 words etc). If someone can achieve that as well as forming a proper ketek then they are far better at it than I .

Now that sounds fun indeed!

[FeatherWriter she/her]

Wow! Such awesome keteks! Wisdom, I'd say if you wanted to make your ketek more "pure" you could take the and out at the end.

of cold and bitter dreams, and the shattered hope of memory

I think the palendrome numbers would make an awesome challenge! Quick, everyone count!

[Wisdom he/him]

On Szeth:

chained honour, silent hatred overpowers sanity, regretful sanity, overpowering hate silencing honour - chained

Regarding the palindromic numbers, I was considering suggesting another layer of complexity where they were palindromic square numbers, until I saw that that would go, 0,1,4,9,121,484,... leaving nine as the only viable number left (unless someone can split a 4 word poem into five sections )

[FeatherWriter she/her]

Or write a 121 word long ketek!

[Turos]

0.0'

You first...

[Wisdom he/him]

Or write a 121 word long ketek!

Wow, 60+1+60 words that have to read the same forwards as well as backwards. That's an average of 24.2 words per section. If someone manages to make one, I will eat my top hat .

[Turos]

Bah! I know for a fact that you already ate your top hat from the last bet you lost

[Wisdom he/him]

Bah! I know for a fact that you already ate your top hat from the last bet you lost

Ha! A true British man is never without a top hat - it is up there with the towel as one of the essentials.

[Turos]

The British and Wayne

[Lonely_Bread]

I just made these today, and this is officially my first post for this website, let me know what you think.

March in glory, blood for battle, enemies, battle for blood, glory in marching.

Shardplate bearers, glowing gems, symbols of war, gems glowing, bearing shardplate.

Silent footsteps, approaching slowly, whispers within whispers, slowly approaching, footsteps silent.

Beauty of colors, transforming objects, revealing wonder, objects transform, colors of beauty.

The second Ketek is intentionally written that way.

[Aeshdan he/him]

Bah! I know for a fact that you already ate your top hat from the last bet you lost

He wears cabbages for hats too?

[Ironeyes]

Very modern, but I spent about ten second on this. It just came.

Feeling stupid for failing art, investigating the art of failing. Stupid feelings.

[Studier of Keteks he/him]

I think there should be some kind of differentiation between how strictly it follows the ketek form. (Sliding scale of Ketek hardness, anyone?)

1. All the words are exactly the same.

2. Changes in pluralization and verb tense.

3. Swaps between the same root words (verbs vs. nouns vs. adjectives vs. adverbs; he hunts, the hunt, a hunting party could be used to switch)

4. Small words and articles added for flow (a, an, of, the, and)

5. Basic form is the same, though some larger words may appear unmirrored.

6. A regular sentence.

So what truly qualifies as a ketek? I feel like the book would cut off at 2, maybe 3, though we only see two keteks and both qualify as 2. The note on keteks specifically says only verb tenses, not the same root word. I'd include 3 (I'm pretty sure my ketek is a 3) just because it lets the end of the ketek be very different from the beginning in meaning, which is cool. I don't even know if a 1 possible, and if it was, I don't know how creative or artistic you could really get. Quite a few of my favorites on here are 4s or 5s, but I definitely think that the higher keteks are impressive.

EDIT: Actually, looking back, I'd say that my ketek was a 2! Look at that! Though I do switch to possessives "stories" to "stories'" but it's the same letters so...

I think that if you are going to classify it as a true ketek, keep it 3 or above. If you state that it is your version of a ketek you can take it down to 5 if you wish.

I aggree that they can be good even if not true keteks.

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Memories of hope shattered, the dreams bitter and cold of glory fading, remembering faded glory, of cold and bitter dreams, the shattered hope of memory.

I was thinking up that one for around 40 minutes on the bus today. It has a certain poignancy to it I feel.

On another note I would like to suggest another addition to Featherwriter's criteria purely for fun - that is if the number of words is itself symmetrical (i.e. 11 words, or 22 words, 33 words etc). If someone can achieve that as well as forming a proper ketek then they are far better at it than I .

EDIT: Edited after Featherwriter's suggestion made me look again at the ketek and decide this time that "the shattered hope of memory" still got the message across. I had previously decided otherwise. (see Turos' quote if you want the previous version )

you have an amazing mind! great ketek and suggestion.

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sorry ive been gone so long guys.

great to see so many people interested in keteks.

Wisdom, I accept your challenge. 121 word ketek coming up.

Soon.

Maybe.

Edited May 19, 2012 by firstRainbowRose
Please don't double post. If you need to add something please edit your original post. Thanks!

[EHyde she/her]

I think there should be some kind of differentiation between how strictly it follows the ketek form. (Sliding scale of Ketek hardness, anyone?)

1. All the words are exactly the same.

2. Changes in pluralization and verb tense.

3. Swaps between the same root words (verbs vs. nouns vs. adjectives vs. adverbs; he hunts, the hunt, a hunting party could be used to switch)

4. Small words and articles added for flow (a, an, of, the, and)

5. Basic form is the same, though some larger words may appear unmirrored.

6. A regular sentence.

So what truly qualifies as a ketek? I feel like the book would cut off at 2, maybe 3, though we only see two keteks and both qualify as 2. The note on keteks specifically says only verb tenses, not the same root word. I'd include 3 (I'm pretty sure my ketek is a 3) just because it lets the end of the ketek be very different from the beginning in meaning, which is cool. I don't even know if a 1 possible, and if it was, I don't know how creative or artistic you could really get. Quite a few of my favorites on here are 4s or 5s, but I definitely think that the higher keteks are impressive.

Do we know anything about linguistics on Roshar? How their language works probably has a big effect on how strict the mirroring has to be, and on how difficult it is to adhere to the form. For example Russian (that being the only foreign language I've studied) doesn't use articles so #4 is not as much of an issue, on the other hand, it has cases (meaning, nouns and adjectives change form depending on what part of the sentence they are) so that makes it a lot harder harder for it to be the exact same word front and back. Other languages I'm sure have their own issues.

[Zhevir he/him]

I tried to write a ketek in school this is how it went:

Cooling rain from the north, refreshing and strengthening nature. The rain falls down. Down falls the rain, nature strengthening and refreshing, from the north, rain cooling.

It isn't perfect and it is originally written in swedish and it doesn't work as well in english.