Smitty24 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 (SPOILERS for WoR) I just wanted to through this out there out of curiosity: Of all the deaths in the first two Stormlight books, was I the only one who was the most broken up over Ym's death? He was only featured in one Interlude, yet for some reason I felt a deeper connection to him than some of the other characters, and so when he died, I was actually pretty sad. Am I the only one? 'Experience Ended' 3
Argel he/him Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I think it was designed with that in mind. Also to show the proto-KRs can be killed, but I think also to set up Darkness/Nalan/Nale for Lift's Interlude, which requires an emotional impact. 2
Eki Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I was sad too. He didn't deserve it (which was of course one of the reasons why the interlude was included), and I think he could have been an awesome and unique side character. 1
Turbonator Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Maybe he still will be a side character... Edited October 4, 2016 by Turbonator
pharaoh9000 he/him Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 We may have not seen the last of Ym's spren.
Farnsworth Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 Could there be something to his religion? The idea about one becoming many seems very much like the shattering of Adonalsium. This is a bit of a stretch, but since some of the original shardholders seemed to be very good people, there was clearly a reason for his shattering beyond power seeking. So, was this because the universe was stagnating with Adonalsium? Similar idea to Ym's religion. 1
Djarskublar he/him Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 I was sad Ym died as well, but I have to sheepishly admit it was mostly because I was like 'oh no! One less Radiant to fight the voidbringers!' (read: one less Surgebinder for us to study ;)) 2
Sand Master Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 20 hours ago, Figberts said: Could there be something to his religion? The idea about one becoming many seems very much like the shattering of Adonalsium. This is a bit of a stretch, but since some of the original shardholders seemed to be very good people, there was clearly a reason for his shattering beyond power seeking. So, was this because the universe was stagnating with Adonalsium? Similar idea to Ym's religion. I thought the same thing. Especially since he mentions the God Beyond, which seems like it could easily refer to Adonalsium. I've often wondered how close he was to what actually happened.
Tariniel he/him Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 Honestly, I liked him, but wasn't too broken up over his death. I was much more intrigued by the question of who was this mysterious lawman, that seems to give no chances for repentance. Nevertheless, the fact that there are some people who feel this way is a huge point in Brandon's favor. Making readers care about a side character in just one chapter... I could only hope to be there someday.
Smitty24 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Posted October 18, 2016 On 10/6/2016 at 4:38 AM, Tariniel said: "Honestly, I liked him, but wasn't too broken up over his death. I was much more intrigued by the question of who was this mysterious lawman, that seems to give no chances for repentance." Wasn't this lawman Nale? He's a Skybreaker after all and their second ideal is 'I will put the law before all else.' "Justice does not expire"
Spoolofwhool Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Smitty24 said: Wasn't this lawman Nale? He's a Skybreaker after all and their second ideal is 'I will put the law before all else.' "Justice does not expire" Yeah, it's known to be Nale now. At the time of the death, it wasn't, which is why he had the reaction.
marianmi Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Nale is not a Skybreaker, and he's not bound in any way by those oaths since he's not a KR in the first place. But where did you get the Skybreaker's second ideal? EDIT: got to the WoB about the ideal Edited October 18, 2016 by marianmi
Smitty24 Posted February 10, 2017 Author Posted February 10, 2017 On 10/18/2016 at 4:56 PM, marianmi said: Nale is not a Skybreaker, and he's not bound in any way by those oaths since he's not a KR in the first place. Are you sure? According to what I've read and the Coppermind, Nale is the Harold of the Skybreakers: http://coppermind.net/wiki/Order_of_Skybreakers
Guest Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 When asked, Brandon did confirm he considered the Heralds as members of their orders. Therefore, Nale is a Skybreaker: he also is their leader.
Spoolofwhool Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 The Heralds are not the leaders of the orders; they are the patrons. Nale isn't bound by the ideals that the Skybreakers must follow, but he likely follows them, both as example, and because he believes it to be right.
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