VirtuousTraveller Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Hi everyone, Since Brandon has started this wonderful tradition of telling us to "Read And Find Out" (RAFO) when we have questions about mysteries in his books, I thought it would be fun to list out questions that he's actually answered in his books, but someone who never actually read them would never have found out. Here are some starters! What is so special about Vin's earring? Why couldn't Vin use the mists like she did to defeat the Lord Ruler? Who was the Hero of Ages? How was Hrathen healed from the Shaod? How did Vasher manage to defeat Arsteel? Who was the White Fox? And....Go Go DRAFO! =)
The Sovereign Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, VirtuousTraveller said: Since Brandon has started this wonderful tradition of telling us to "Read And Find Out" (RAFO) when we have questions about mysteries in his books, I thought it would be fun to list out questions that he's actually answered in his books, but someone who never actually read them would never have found out. Because nit-picking is fun; Brandon didn't actually start this, this was a favorite tool of Robert Jordan and Brandon adopted it. As for RAFO scenarios: Why did Vin feel uncomfortable around Hoid in Hero of Ages and not approach him for information. Edited September 19, 2016 by Prince of the Ravens
Brgst13 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Further nit-picking: We know how Aresteel was defeated. Vasher gifted him some breaths to distract him, which gave Vasher the opportunity to kill him.
Samaldin he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Brgst13 said: Further nit-picking: We know how Aresteel was defeated. Vasher gifted him some breaths to distract him, which gave Vasher the opportunity to kill him. That´s what this thread is about if i understood right. We know the answer to the questions, but someone who only read a summary and didn´t read the books doesnt. (For example Vins earring is special because it s a hemalurgic spike) Another one Were the Bands of Mourning actually made by the Lord Ruler?
DeTess she/her Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 55 minutes ago, Samaldin said: Were the Bands of Mourning actually made by the Lord Ruler? I'd argue that's still in RAFO territory. I mean, we know who put them there, but that doesn't mean he made them (as I'm pretty sure the bands of the LR had gone MIA).
Yata he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, randuir said: I'd argue that's still in RAFO territory. I mean, we know who put them there, but that doesn't mean he made them (as I'm pretty sure the bands of the LR had gone MIA). Actually it isn't a really strong doubt. Rashek was a paranoid men who fear the rise of someone who may challenge him...He would never made something like the BoM and much more. He has no need of doing something like that. Also the form is nothing connected with him and in the BoM there are metal who where impossible to reach in Rashek's empire.
DeTess she/her Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 On the other hand...(I put the rest in spoiler-brackets, because of obvious BoM spoilers) Spoiler Kelsier wasn't a full-born before. We know that he has received at least one spike, but for the creation of the BoM he would have had to receive 16, including ones for metals that might not have been generally known yet at the time of his resurrection (which can't have been too long after the catacendre if there where any southerners left to safe). On the other hand, the lord Ruler was indeed as paranoid as you mentioned, however, he was also smart enough to plan for an eventuality in which he was dead. He might have reasoned that the only way for someone to get the Bands was over his own dead body, so he might have found it worth the risk as part of his doomsday preparation plan. Of course, it does contain metals that the lord ruler didn't have easy access to, but I'd expect him to at least know about all of them from his time with the power of the well. Furthermore, Rashek has proven before that he is quite capable of sneaking quantities of metal around without anyone noticing, so I don't think it is impossible for him to have acquired the metal samples he would need to make the bands. The shape could have been made by Kelsier, who found the bands and melted them down to the shape of the spearhead. I suspect they where bands originally, as the southerners referred to them as such, and their ancestors had actually seen the thing.
VirtuousTraveller Posted September 20, 2016 Author Posted September 20, 2016 12 hours ago, Brgst13 said: Further nit-picking: We know how Aresteel was defeated. Vasher gifted him some breaths to distract him, which gave Vasher the opportunity to kill him. LOL but someone who didn't RAFO wouldn't know!
DSC01 he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 23 hours ago, Iron Eyes said: Why did Vin feel uncomfortable around Hoid in Hero of Ages and not approach him for information. That bothered me for so long. I kept going through increasingly unlikely hypotheses for why it happened that, and I just knew that nothing I was coming up with made sense. When it was revealed, it was such a big bomb drop for me. 1
A Secret Corner he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Questions: Q. Who is this "Hoid" character A. DRAFO Q. What happened to all the Atium A. *facepalm* DRAFO Q. Why did what Raoden did fix AonDor A. DRAFO 2
PantsForSquares he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 11 hours ago, randuir said: Spoiler The shape could have been made by Kelsier, who found the bands and melted them down to the shape of the spearhead. I suspect they where bands originally, as the southerners referred to them as such, and their ancestors had actually seen the thing. The name itself is a ludicrously amazing pun. The Bands are described as being "woven" with metals. It's literally got metallic bands in it. 4
DeTess she/her Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 1 minute ago, PantsForSquares said: The name itself is a ludicrously amazing pun. The Bands are described as being "woven" with metals. It's literally got metallic bands in it. I'm not sure if I agree with that explanation, but have an upvote anyway for coming up with it!
PantsForSquares he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, randuir said: I'm not sure if I agree with that explanation, but have an upvote anyway for coming up with it! Bands are defined both as "articles for binding the person or the limbs" - which is their archaic use - or as "a stripe or elongated area of a different color, texture, or composition than its surroundings." (as in a banded iron formation). 1
DeTess she/her Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 9 hours ago, PantsForSquares said: Bands are defined both as "articles for binding the person or the limbs" - which is their archaic use - or as "a stripe or elongated area of a different color, texture, or composition than its surroundings." (as in a banded iron formation). I understand your explanation, I'm just not sure if that's actually what is going on here, but I don't think there is a way to prove it one way or another.
PantsForSquares he/him Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 3 hours ago, randuir said: I understand your explanation, I'm just not sure if that's actually what is going on here, but I don't think there is a way to prove it one way or another. Well, it definitely mislead a whole lot of people during the book, since they were expecting bracers and got a banded spearhead instead. I should try to get a WoB on the matter sometime.
DeTess she/her Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 51 minutes ago, PantsForSquares said: Well, it definitely mislead a whole lot of people during the book, since they were expecting bracers and got a banded spearhead instead. I should try to get a WoB on the matter sometime. Ah, I understand why we are misunderstanding eachother now. I always assumed the bands where originally the kind you can wear on your arm, and that Kelsier basically forged/melted them down into the spearhead we saw in the book (with the bands resulting from the shape of the orignal object).
PantsForSquares he/him Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, randuir said: Ah, I understand why we are misunderstanding eachother now. I always assumed the bands where originally the kind you can wear on your arm, and that Kelsier basically forged/melted them down into the spearhead we saw in the book (with the bands resulting from the shape of the orignal object). That's precisely why it's so amazing. We have no real idea if Rashek's bracers survived the Catacendre, but we do know that they were his atiumminds (I'm away from my Era 1 books now, so someone correct me if I am wrong) that he used for Compounding youth. The Bands we see in BoM are an entirely separate thing, but because bands also refer to bracers, people assumed that's what they were, when it's literally just a banded spearhead made up of a whole lot of metals.
Lord_of_Awesome Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 0:09 AM, PantsForSquares said: Well, it definitely mislead a whole lot of people during the book, since they were expecting bracers and got a banded spearhead instead. I should try to get a WoB on the matter sometime. Wait.... Spearhead. Spearman. Kaladin. WORLDHOPPING KALADIN CONFIRMED!!! This is a joke, BTW.
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