If.you.die.I.go.stupid Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Argel said: If we went through Eshonai's flashback book without seeing any that would be far more compelling. As is, there is little page time given to the Listeners, so we need to be careful reading too much into it. Case in point, how can Listeners interbreed with humans (Horneaters and Herdazians) if they do not have children like we do? It's also possible Brandon wants to avoid the whole children turning into voidbringers thing and is just leaving them out because of that. Yes. I expect that we will know more about this after the next book. It may be nothing or something small. In the case of the parshmen I expect it is simply something unpleasant that the light eyes don't like to discuss, a breeding program or something. The Parshendi are more interesting. I suspect they have children in a similar manner to humans because of the interbreeding, but it is unclear. Parshendi require a spren to have form. Are they born with one, born in a high storm? How does their connection with the cognitive realm effect the interbreeding? I assume this is why Rock can see spren. This is a topic that raises a lot of questions for me, but do to the lack of info on it so far I don't have many theories, just questions.
Sand Master Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 37 minutes ago, If.you.die.I.go.stupid said: Yes. I expect that we will know more about this after the next book. It may be nothing or something small. In the case of the parshmen I expect it is simply something unpleasant that the light eyes don't like to discuss, a breeding program or something. The Parshendi are more interesting. I suspect they have children in a similar manner to humans because of the interbreeding, but it is unclear. Parshendi require a spren to have form. Are they born with one, born in a high storm? How does their connection with the cognitive realm effect the interbreeding? I assume this is why Rock can see spren. This is a topic that raises a lot of questions for me, but do to the lack of info on it so far I don't have many theories, just questions. I thought this was why Rock could see spren at first as well, but doesn't Rock mention that not all Horneaters can see spren the way he does? Also, didn't he also tell a story about essentially sticking his head in Roshar's Shardpool? I seem to remember someone coming to the conclusion that that's why he could see spren. 2
The One Who Connects he/him Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Link. I don't know if this means that they are directly related, or if he is stating the "connection" between Parshendi and Horneaters Quote Question Both Parshendi and Horneaters are able to see spren ordinary humans can't. Is there a connection between these abilities, or do they come from completely different sources? Brandon Sanderson Horneaters are human/Parshendi hybrids. (There are several Roshar races that have Parshendi blood in them.) 2
cadebengert he/him Posted September 17, 2016 Author Posted September 17, 2016 15 hours ago, Sand Master said: This mention was when Rlain returned to Dalinar's army. Here is the quote: "I got close enough to see an army, tens of thousands. But surely they left some in other forms. The elderly? The young? Who watches our children?" Precisely. So we can infer that they have a birth/life cycle that is at least comparable to humans. But then where do they get Parshman slaves from? Is there like a breeding season allowed for them? Or do they have Parshman Breeders that run like a breeding farm? Again, I don't think we have explicitly seen evidence of female Parshman in service, although @Krandacth said they vaguely remembered there being one in Tvlakv's service, but I don't believe this was confirmed (I haven't had a chance to look it up either). Even if this turns out to be a female Parshman slave (and neither we nor Shallan are mistaken), that's only one mentioned in two books, spanning a lengthy time period (flashbacks included). Just seems unlikely that natural breeding is a feasible option for Parshman, even if it were allowed by Alethi.
Sand Master Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I'm in the process of rereading WoR right now, and having just recently read the part where Shallan encounters the "female" parshman, I can tell you that she sees what appears to be a slight hint of breasts, but admits to herself that it's so hard to tell. So while there may not have been any other specific mentions of female parshmen, I think it's likely that people just can't tell the difference without close examination, and so they don't get mentioned. 2
If.you.die.I.go.stupid Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Quote I thought this was why Rock could see spren at first as well, but doesn't Rock mention that not all Horneaters can see spren the way he does? Also, didn't he also tell a story about essentially sticking his head in Roshar's Shardpool? I seem to remember someone coming to the conclusion that that's why he could see spren. If it's a genetic trait, It would make sense that not all Horneaters could see spren. It could be a recessive trait or maybe it depends on how much Parshendi heritage one has. The pool is a good theory too. I'm reading WoR again right now. I'll have to pay special attention to that bit. I remember it raising several questions for me the first time round. 1
hoidhunter he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 On September 16, 2016 at 0:27 PM, hwiles said: I feel like you really didn't get enough credit for this post. Hilarious and coined a funny new word, parshbaby. Thank God for people like you in the Cosmere Thanks. Ill tell my staff of writers to keep the material coming.
Rasarr she/her Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, AngelEy3 said: There are no dwarf women!!! Hmmm...
AngelEy3 he/him Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 11:36 AM, Rasarr said: Hmmm... Perfect reply, I'm glad someone thought of that picture!
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