So... when will the Voidbringers conquer Urithiru?

[Patrick Star]

So, the title basically explains everything.

With the final desolation upon us, the current proto-radiants are woefully ill-prepared to deal with all the different threats they're facing, and Urithiru is currently the only location that is clearly safe from the Everstorm.

So, when will Odium's forces take it?  I'm personally expecting it to either happen about halfway through book 4 (to be retaken in book 5), or taken in book 5 to be reclaimed in the second arc.

What are other people's thoughts on this?

[Massik he/him]

If they do, I see that as an edgame kind of thing.  

Urithuru was just rediscovered, Immidiate books will deal with furthering the refounding, and consequences of the everstorm/how mankind copes.  Urithuru will be the last bastion for mankind in the physical realm.  

I can see it possibly falling at the end of the series, moving the true end battle to the Tranquiline Halls, but I'm not sure it makes sense to have it fall until the last or second to last book.  

Edited July 13, 2016 by Massik

[The Ninja Yodeler he/him]

If/when its taken, I dont think it will be retaken by the Radiants. I have felt for a few years now that this is the story of a worlds destruction. I know, I know. It sounds too similar to MB. But Scadrial was ultimately saved from absolute destruction. I dont think Roshar will be saved.

Edited July 13, 2016 by The Ninja Yodeler

[jamoliso]

Hi, longtime Lurker.

I might be unaware about some word of Brandon, but where has it been stated that the everstorm won't hit Urithiru? The city is clearly built in a way to show that it experiences highstorms. The only reason it hasn't been hit by the everstorm is because the Parshendi unleashed it in the Shattered Plains which are east of the city.

Although, maybe part of its holiness is that the city has some kind of investiture that prevents the everstorm from affecting it.

 

Edited July 14, 2016 by jamoliso

[Massik he/him]

19 minutes ago, jamoliso said:

Hi, longtime Lurker.

I might be unaware about some word of Brandon, but where has it been stated that the everstorm won't hit Urithiru? The city is clearly built in a way to show that it experiences highstorms. The only reason it hasn't been hit by the everstorm is because the Parshendi unleashed it in the Shattered Plains which are east of the city.

Although, maybe part of its holiness is that the city has some kind of investiture that prevents the everstorm from affecting it.

I think its elevation may be helpful.   It has glass windows that face the source, which aren't broken.  

When the everstorm is unleashed, the Stormfathrr unleashes a high storm, and it seems they are pretty evenly matched.  

Kaladin and Szeth battle above them, so it would seem there is a roof to them.  

 

[asterion137 he/him]

At the end of one of the books. Most likely the fourth one or fifth one, if the voidbringers get to it at all. However, the very fact that it looks like an invincible fortress makes me think Brandon is gonna have the voidbringers burn it to the ground to add a sense of suspense and danger.

[Stormgate he/him]

The stones of Urithiru are unhallowed, able to be freely walked on by the Shin. While further information is of course necessary to draw any reasonable conclusions, there is some indication that Urithiru may somehow be protected from Voidbringers in ways we haven't yet seen.

[Magestar he/him]

9 hours ago, Stormgate said:

The stones of Urithiru are unhallowed, able to be freely walked on by the Shin. While further information is of course necessary to draw any reasonable conclusions, there is some indication that Urithiru may somehow be protected from Voidbringers in ways we haven't yet seen.

I agree with this.  I think that there is something more going on here than just the fact that Urithiru is 'sacred', and that some interesting magic-y stuff wil be going on here.

Also, I think there will be some re-founding here, with apocalypse-survival type preperations being made.  I see the whole place getting cleaned up, and huge preperations and fortifications getting done.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Magestar

[Argel he/him]

10 hours ago, Magestar said:

Also, I think there will be some re-founding here, with apocalypse-survival type preperations being made.  I see the whole place getting cleaned up, and huge preperations and fortifications getting done.

Only one single pillar remained in that vision. I always thought it was so they had something to stand on in the vision, but it could be more symbolic, and a pillar represents Urithiru quite well.

[asterion137 he/him]

20 hours ago, Stormgate said:

The stones of Urithiru are unhallowed, able to be freely walked on by the Shin. While further information is of course necessary to draw any reasonable conclusions, there is some indication that Urithiru may somehow be protected from Voidbringers in ways we haven't yet seen.

this line always confused me, since "hallowed" means the same thing as consecrated or blessed. Unhallowed means not being blessed

Edited July 15, 2016 by asterion137

[CaptainRyan he/him]

37 minutes ago, asterion137 said:

this line always confused me, since "hallowed" means the same thing as consecrated or blessed. Unhallowed means not being blessed

The Shin see all other stone as hallowed and, therefore, do not walk on it. Uruthiru is exempt from the "no walking" rule so its stones are "unhallowed". 

[Guest]

On 7/13/2016 at 10:40 PM, jamoliso said:

Hi, longtime Lurker.

I might be unaware about some word of Brandon, but where has it been stated that the everstorm won't hit Urithiru? The city is clearly built in a way to show that it experiences highstorms. The only reason it hasn't been hit by the everstorm is because the Parshendi unleashed it in the Shattered Plains which are east of the city.

Although, maybe part of its holiness is that the city has some kind of investiture that prevents the everstorm from affecting it.

 

It will hit. We have WoB stating while Urithiru is safer than other locations from the Everstorm, it isn't exactly safe either...

[Jondesu he/him]

1 hour ago, maxal said:

It will hit. We have WoB stating while Urithiru is safer than other locations from the Everstorm, it isn't exactly safe either...

It's safer than many places simply because they didn't bring any Parshmen, so even if the storm hits, they won't have that aftermath. 

jW

[goody153]

I suspect the series will be settled at either Urithiru or Braize with a raging highstorm and everstorm near the area.

[Jondesu he/him]

7 minutes ago, goody153 said:

I suspect the series will be settled at either Urithiru or Braize with a raging highstorm and everstorm near the area.

I dunno, he's done the Everstorm meets Highstorm already.  I don't see that as being a final confrontation unless there's something about them we don't know yet.

jW

[goody153]

18 minutes ago, Jondesu said:

I dunno, he's done the Everstorm meets Highstorm already.  I don't see that as being a final confrontation unless there's something about them we don't know yet.

jW

Yeah i know that book 2 finale was already that but i thought it would be kinda symbolistic(not sure what's the right term) if the mark of how the true desolation started (highstorm/everstorm) would also how it would end with a highstorm and everstorm meeting.

[Argel he/him]

When was the WoB that we have already seen the ending? Post TWoK or post WoR?

[Guest]

On 7/15/2016 at 0:30 AM, Jondesu said:

It's safer than many places simply because they didn't bring any Parshmen, so even if the storm hits, they won't have that aftermath. 

jW

Based on the comment he made, I think it i will hit. It won't be a disaster, but the fact he said the city was not completely safe from it made me think something will happen when it comes. It could be major or minor such as having one of the character end up stuck in it or something. Someone once asked if a person wearing a Shardplate would be safe in a Highstorm, he said not completely, so maybe we'll get to see it happening, who knows?