kelsi Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Why didn't Preservation get his power back once Vin released it after ascending? Why did he have to die still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 We have a forum for questions like this This, being an introductory forum, is not a very good place because you can spoil some things for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos he/him Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I am also moving this to the Mistborn board. You can also ask it in Cosmere Q&A. But Introduce Yourself is introducing you to the community, not in depth book discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 he/him Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 23 hours ago, kelsi said: Why didn't Preservation get his power back once Vin released it after ascending? Why did he have to die still? To answer the question, the entity we call "Preservation" is a combination of a metric "rust"-ton of power, the intent that the power is geared toward (namely, preserving things), and a sapient mind and soul directing the power, or as Khriss notes in Secret History, "just riding it, by this point." Like being in control of a giant mech with 1/16th of an OS. The pilot died, his mind went to the Spiritual Realm, his soul to the Beyond, and his now-lifeless body was dumped into the Physical Realm, after talking with Elend outside of Fadrex. The power, meanwhile, was all set to implode and Splinter all over the Cognitive landscape of Scadrial had not Kelsier picked it up. By the time it was handed off to Vin, Leras (the original pilot) was long gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Returned he/him Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Leras was already dead by the time Vin ascended. He and the power of Preservation are not necessarily the same thing, and in this case, Leras has been dead for a while, Preservation the power has still lingered with his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelsi Posted July 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Landis963 said: To answer the question, the entity we call "Preservation" is a combination of a metric "rust"-ton of power, the intent that the power is geared toward (namely, preserving things), and a sapient mind and soul directing the power, or as Khriss notes in Secret History, "just riding it, by this point." Like being in control of a giant mech with 1/16th of an OS. The pilot died, his mind went to the Spiritual Realm, his soul to the Beyond, and his now-lifeless body was dumped into the Physical Realm, after talking with Elend outside of Fadrex. The power, meanwhile, was all set to implode and Splinter all over the Cognitive landscape of Scadrial had not Kelsier picked it up. By the time it was handed off to Vin, Leras (the original pilot) was long gone. Hey, I meant the first time when Vin Released power followed by the freeing of Ruin from the Prison. Preservation was Alive at that time right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu he/him Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 7 hours ago, kelsi said: Hey, I meant the first time when Vin Released power followed by the freeing of Ruin from the Prison. Preservation was Alive at that time right? He'd already martyred himself to keep Ruin imprisoned at that point. He'd used up a large portion of his mind to create the prison. Leras was already mostly gone by that time, and he didn't get anything back when the prison was destroyed (if anything, things probably got worse for him at that point, beyond the damage that had been done by creating the prison and then the time after that). The last of his strength and mental capacity was used up communicating with Elend outside of Fadrex, and that's the time he truly, completely, and irrevocably died. jW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 The Shardpool is simply a natural accumulation of Investiture, like an ice pack on a mountain. Just because you use the water in the ice pack doesn't mean the rain clouds have more water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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