[email protected] Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Metal is the same thing as the soul. That's what we learn in BoM it's what makes Rioting and Soothing possible...Copper and Brass helps mask or find metals being invested... Bronze can find people burning metal, can find usage of Feruchemy, and potentially allocate any usage of investiture... could a Seeker Savant be the key to finding the unknown God? Not that it's going to happen, but they're able to see what the shards are blind to... I'll probably ramble and speculate more in the comments to keep it all contained. Also, does this imply that harmony is blind to souls ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, [email protected] said: Also, does this imply that harmony is blind to souls ? The reason of the Ruin&Preservation's Metal-Blind is about Metal as the Scadrial's Focus. Therefore is a Gateway for Investiture...This mean that in the Cognitive Realm the Metal glows and made impossible to entities from the Scadrial's Cognitive Realm to read thing write on metal (not only Ruin & Preservation)... But they "see" the metal, it just glow bright. In the same way every Investiture's source.. for example an Human being with his Soul glows in the Cognitive Realm... Much more if the Human is a Magic User. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted June 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Yeah, the soul glows because it's invested, the same as the metals. I presume that the breath, and Dor do the same on their planets. Blind might not be the right word. They cannot seek out the soul, alone. Like the cognitive spirits could hide from Sazed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, [email protected] said: Like the cognitive spirits could hide from Sazed? Like everyone else... if he has his attention on the area where you are... he probably notices you. But Shards can't divide their attention everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted June 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Right. Was seeking clarification. So, the soul is a form of investiture. Which we already knew, but it's fun to get different connected dots. Same number of metals as shards... it's fun to speculate about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 6 hours ago, [email protected] said: Yeah, the soul glows because it's invested, the same as the metals. I presume that the breath, and Dor do the same on their planets. Blind might not be the right word. They cannot seek out the soul, alone. Like the cognitive spirits could hide from Sazed? Important point: Metals on Scadrial aren't Invested. Souls are (or rather, they're made of Investiture), but the mechanics there aren't quite that cut and dry. Metals glow because that's a unique feature of Scadrial; we haven't seen an equivalent on another world so far, but we're very limited in opportunities to see something like that (as in, we haven't seen the same perspective on any other world), so we can't really be sure on much yet. jW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnsworth Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) I thought the whole point was that metal on Scadrial was Invested. Our wiki says that "it is the method by which Investiture can be formed into magical effects" Edited July 2, 2016 by Figberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Figberts said: I thought the whole point was that metal on Scadrial was Invested. Our wiki says that "it is the method by which Investiture can be formed into magical effects" Scadrian Metals are not invested in and of themselves. However, they are the plug on the end of the connection which plugs into Preservation's essence. Picture, if you will, a Rosharan sphere that started infused, and that never went dun, but when a Radiant went to pull the Investiture out, the sphere was consumed in the process. Allomantic metals are a more limited version of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Figberts said: I thought the whole point was that metal on Scadrial was Invested. Our wiki says that "it is the method by which Investiture can be formed into magical effects" Actually no, the power in the Metallic Arts comes from somewhere else and the Metal simply works as limiter/converter: - Allomancy: You drain investiture for Preservation using the Metal as gateway/limitator. Passing though the Metal'structure trasform Preservation's Investiture in the specific power (coppercloud or Steelpush for example). - Feruchemy: You convert energy/matter to Investiture packed inside metal. The Metal's strucure limits what you may store there. - Hemalurgy: Of course a Spike's charge comes from some unlucky guy and the Metal's structure limits what kind of Spirit Web may keep. In all three cases as you may see the metal has not intrinsic Investiture but work always with outer sources. Of course this may be see without a long explaination with the fact that foreign Metals work with Allomancy on Scadrial and in the rest of Cosmere. Edited July 3, 2016 by Yata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnsworth Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Thanks for the explanation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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