Master Elodin Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Ah, Braize Of course it was you that asked. I really thought that I was onto something there and I was excited to share it. Humph. Also, since I just saw this edit while I was doing a vote tally for my team, I'll respond to it now. Where did I imply you were a child? I only talked about you in one paragraph of that post. It was all statements of facts, and I even said you did something clever. I don't understand why you would respond so defensively, as if I attacked the quality of character or badmouthed you in any way. I'm sad to hear that you don't care about my opinion. I think that's a pretty harsh thing to say, and not just because it's directed at me. As a human being in general, not caring about other people's opinions is what causes the most problems within and between societies. I'm not sure where you're going with those numbers, but I think referring to me as "kid" in the context of this post is a bit rude. Either way, I'm sorry if I upset you. If you've calmed down enough to explain what I did exactly to trigger this response, I'd appreciate you did so I can make sure it doesn't happen again. Anyway, vote tally. (4? 3?) Paranoid King: Sart, Conquestor, Master Elodin? (Not sure if it counts because it’s in a spoiler), Mckeedee123, (3) The Only Joe: Kipper, Nyali, Strawman (2) Mailliw73: Cloudjumper, OrlokTsubodai, (2) Kipper: Jaimeleecee, Arraenae, (2) Master Elodin: Paranoid King, Amanuensis, (1) Amanuensis: phattemer, (1) Ada?: STINK, (1) Stink: Lopen, (1) Dowanx: Zas678, (1) Sart: The Only Joe, I'm sorry. That wasn't true, and I reacted more emotionally and violently than makes sense. It was the fact that the post seemed almost entirely directed at me so when you said the thing about not punishing children it irked me, especially since that's a pet peeve of me in real life. As to the "kid" thing at the end of the post, it was referencing the thing above. Again, I apologize for my reaction, but I would like you to know that your post seemed to be almost entirely directed at me, and even if it wasn't it was directed at me as a part of a group, so the use of that analogy was hurtful to me. Anyways, as I asked before, if I promise to start being more helpful to the non-Spiked faction, will you retract your vote on me?
Guest Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Arraenae said: I’m beginning to wonder whether the person behind the 17th Shard account known as “Kipper” is the same person who left earlier this year to take an SE hiatus. This current “Kipper” is making posts that are more suited to insulting people in docs than a game of Sanderson Elimination. When I suggested that we focus on the Spiked team first, Kipper smacked down my idea. He said he would not be revealing his any of his faction’s information, including the memberlist. He explained how keeping factional information secret is good for all of us. Then, even though it was Night, he placed a vote on me because I was supposed to be smarter than to suggest going for the Spiked first. I agree completely with all the points that he brought up. This isn’t a standard elimination game. Making memberlists public will hurt more than help. I disagreed with how he implied that I wanted everybody to share factional information. In fact, I don’t see how catching the Spiked and keeping factional information secret are contradictory. So, I asked Kipper. He said the last part of his post wasn’t referring to me. I asked him who he was referring to. The last paragraph included a vote on me, a chastisement of me, and an explanation that I wasn’t in his faction and should die. He told me it didn’t matter and that I should go back to check his post. I understand that Kipper was not going to come back from his hiatus playing the exact way he did before. I understand that Kipper is still on the mod-queue, which makes playing SE difficult. I understand that Kipper sometimes enjoys prodding people to see their reaction (he once responded to a string of critiques for someone’s writing with one-liners just to troll me). But that doesn’t explain Kipper’s recent, uncharacteristic non-responses. Did a hungry and unskilled kandra discover his corpse sometime during his hiatus? Has he been hit very hard in the head by kitchen appliances while cooking? Or does he have an agenda that requires antagonizing me? I am not Kipper, nor am I the person behind his account. I don’t know what is happening, but he does. And this time, I want a real response. I've not insulted anyone. I made one post criticizing a strategy of yours and others, then you went on the attack. True. Great. True. True. "Chastisement." XD True though." It really doesn't matter. I said what I said, and you decided to make a mountain out of a molehill and ask me who exactly I was responding to. I don't remember now who, specifically, it was, but it wasn't you. Consider it a general response to multiple comments in thread. Prodding you in particular definitely amuses me, but keep in mind that you're continuing to prod me. Oh. I've not been hit in the head. I'm burned by hot oil on the daily, but no blunt force trauma as of yet. My agenda requires your death. I don't especially need to antagonize you. That's nice.
Renegade he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Author Posted June 30, 2016 Alright, there's been plenty of drama today, but do not try taking this to a personal level. I understand that this is a faction game, and there is bound to be some tension, but please remember that the foremost goal is having fun, above all else. Carry on. 3
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Master Elodin said: I'm sorry. That wasn't true, and I reacted more emotionally and violently than makes sense. It was the fact that the post seemed almost entirely directed at me so when you said the thing about not punishing children it irked me, especially since that's a pet peeve of me in real life. As to the "kid" thing at the end of the post, it was referencing the thing above. Again, I apologize for my reaction, but I would like you to know that your post seemed to be almost entirely directed at me, and even if it wasn't it was directed at me as a part of a group, so the use of that analogy was hurtful to me. Anyways, as I asked before, if I promise to start being more helpful to the non-Spiked faction, will you retract your vote on me? Oh, no. I'm sorry about that. The only real portion of the post that was directed specifically at you was the paragraph where I mentioned your name. Before that I was only defining what it meant to be an "unhealthy" Chaotic, and pointing out the damage it can deal. Like I said, I don't think you've had any malignant intent in aiding the chaos. I think you were just having fun. I hope I didn't ruin or discourage that, because that's not my intent at all. I want everyone to have fun; I just would prefer it to be carefully considered fun. As long as people do that then I am happy. I was just using that as an example; like, if something is an issue, we shouldn't ignore it, but at the very least talk about ways to fix it. I'm really sorry that analogy hurt you and I will make sure not to use something like it again. And okay, I'll retract my vote. Elodin. I was going to wait until I had a genuine reason to vote for someone else, but I can understand your concern. I don't like it when people vote for me, either. No hard feelings? Edited June 30, 2016 by Amanuensis 1
Master Elodin Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Oh, no. I'm sorry about that. The only real portion of the post that was directed specifically at you was the paragraph where I mentioned your name. Before that I was only defining what it meant to be an "unhealthy" Chaotic, and pointing out the damage it can deal. Like I said, I don't think you've had any malignant intent in aiding the chaos. I think you were just having fun. I hope I didn't ruin or discourage that, because that's not my intent at all. I want everyone to have fun; I just would prefer it to be carefully considered fun. As long as people do that then I am happy. I was just using that as an example; like, if something is an issue, we shouldn't ignore it, but at the very least talk about ways to fix it. I'm really sorry that analogy hurt you and I will make sure not to use something like it again. And okay, I'll retract my vote. Elodin. I was going to wait until I had a genuine reason to vote for someone else, but I can understand your concern. I don't like it when people vote for me, either. No hard feelings? Of course. By the way, anyone who wants to tell me something privately can use the method I was asking Orlok about. Edited June 30, 2016 by Master Elodin Clarification
Elbereth she/her Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Sandhya worked furiously that night, adding the finishing touches to Thanata's name, trying to get it done before she came in. At last, she stood up from her seat to look at it, smiling triumphantly. It was beautiful: seven silver letters, dappled almost like the mists swirling outside, each bounded by thick black strokes, with a tiny white line running between the silver and the black. She capped her ink, then picked up her various implements and packed them away. All she had to do now was wait for Thanata. Thanata crept through an alleyway, neck prickling, her stone clutched in her hand. Stones are still, and silent, and cold. Stones do not care about armies or Allomancers or Inquisitors. Stones do not feel fear. Sandhya waited, twisting a brush between her fingers idly. And waited. And waited… She frowned. It was a few hours past midnight, now. Sandhya was usually back by now. She waited another half hour, doodling on a scrap of paper, then made up her mind and rose. She walked out of the ballroom and up to Father’s study. He looked up, blinking to see Sandhya there. She never visited him. She doubted he even knew she stayed up to see Sandhya come back every night. Before she could stop herself, she blurted out, “Where’s Thanata?” “Out doing her nightly duties, I’d imagine,” he said mildly. “Really? Because she’s usually back by at least an hour ago, usually more. I don’t remember her ever being this late before.” “Well, she did have a good deal to do tonight,” he commented. “She’ll be back by morning, Sandhya. She can handle herself.” He stood, patting her awkwardly on the shoulder. “Now don’t worry. Get to bed, and I’m sure you’ll be able to see your sister in the morning.” He smiled and ushered her out the door. She stood outside, muttering to herself. “He sent her out with a lot to do tonight? With an Inquisitor on the loose and three armies at our walls? Could he be a little more considerate?” She shook her head and headed back to the ballroom to wait. Thanata would be coming back, and Sandhya knew just the perfect present after a long night out in the mists, doing whatever it was that Father wanted. Sandhya opened her eyes slowly, looking at the grains of the wood in front of her face. She slowly forced herself upright, and her eyes opened wide. Through the balcony doors, the sky was bright, and the mist had almost vanished already. She’d fallen asleep! Maybe Thanata came in and just left me sleeping? she thought, but shook her head. Thanata wouldn’t do that, and she was a light sleeper anyway. The sound of the balcony doors opening and closing would’ve woken her. Worry clenched her gut. She grabbed the piece of paper, noting with relief that she hadn’t smudged it in her sleep, and after a quick check to verify that Thanata wasn’t in her room, she threw on a cape and headed out. She looked down every street she came to, but of course there was no sign of Thanata. She wouldn’t be out in the open like that. Sandhya headed for the market. Maybe someone had seen her, or something. What else could she do, anyway? She kept glancing down alleyways until she could hear the quiet babble of the market ahead of her. Then… She faltered, and stopped, staring down a particularly dark alley. The few people on the streets before sunrise parted around her, on their way to buy or sell, but she paid them no heed. The babble slowly faded to silence. Her hand tightened slowly on the piece of paper she held, though she didn’t crumple it out of habit. Sandhya felt like there was an invisible bubble surrounding her, blocking out everything except… Except Thanata. She hung in the alleyway, eyes staring out towards the street where Sandhya stood. Her chest was a bloody mess and her mistcloak was stained in places, but her face was untouched, and for once it wasn’t cold or distant. It was haunted. Sandhya took an involuntary step forward, and another, until she was sprinting towards her sister. She halted, panting, below where her sister hung, staring upwards. She couldn’t reach Thanata’s face, couldn’t close her staring eyes, but her hand was within reach. Sandhya reached up and touched it, gently. “No,” she whispered. She didn’t hurt, not yet. It would come, she knew, but it wasn’t time to mourn yet. “No,” she said. She pried open her sister’s hand and caught the stone that fell out, along with something else that she tucked away for later. She stared at the black, smooth rock for a moment, then placed her piece of paper in Thanata’s hand in its place. She nearly broke down then, but… “No.” She turned and walked out of the alley without another glance back at her sister’s horrified face. She had an Inquisitor to kill. Meant to post this at the end of the Night turn, but yesterday was busy so I didn't get the chance to finish it. Sorry if you had any plans for RPing with Thanata, Rae. Sandhya is now free to interact with people, though, which means we can finally start RPing together! Game relevant thoughts are coming, but in a separate post and it'll be a while because this is long enough already and I multiquoted at least eight posts. >> 5
Arraenae Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Elbereth said: Meant to post this at the end of the Night turn, but yesterday was busy so I didn't get the chance to finish it. Sorry if you had any plans for RPing with Thanata, Rae. Sandhya is now free to interact with people, though, which means we can finally start RPing together! Game relevant thoughts are coming, but in a separate post and it'll be a while because this is long enough already and I multiquoted at least eight posts. >> You just killed a potential mistcloak customer.
STINK he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 It is very early in the morning, and apparently I voted for Ada instead of Aman, cause he keeps changing his name and doesn't want a good nickname.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I somehow misread the vote tally, and thought I was tied with Sart, which is why I voted for him. I'm voting for Paranoid King, to justify his Paranoia, and to prevent him from becoming a king.
Elbereth she/her Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) On June 29, 2016 at 6:51 AM, jaimeleecee said: If you're referring to my "each of us" I mean those of us that are not spokes people. I meant, hypothetically, I wouldn't want something I say or do in thread to inadvertently connect me to what my spokes person is saying and out myself. For instance, I think you have a good idea I am going to go with it (for a vote perhaps) individually in thread there could or could not be a connection between us because I agreed with you, but its not certain its just me agreeing with your arguments and people will read that how they will. But if I am agreeing with a spokes person, maybe not even my own, am I going to be viewed as part of that faction? If I choose to stay quiet to protect myself that's not really helpful either.. Maybe I'm thinking too much about it, or not really understanding how the spokes people would function, but that is what I meant. Well, I’d say that in this case the spokesperson wouldn’t really be interacting with anyone but the three other spokespeople, and definitely not putting forward any opinions that their House didn’t agree on (unless prefaced by “this is just my personal opinion” or something similar), so I don’t think that’d be too much of an issue, personally. Still don’t have any good reasons for doing it, though, so at this point I don’t think there’s any need. On June 29, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Nyali said: ... I can't see Joe's hidden white text in his post as anything other than suspicious. Maybe he was just joking, but I think I'll go with [ Joe ] anyway for now until a better target presents itself. In my personal opinion, that’s not suspicious on Joe’s part. (It did amuse me, though.) He’s used that kind of text before, and that’s exactly the kind of thing he’d think of. I’m not necessarily inclined to let his plan happen, but I do like the idea. 17 hours ago, OrlokTsubodai said: I think we are at significant risk of letting the spiked run away with this game. By not revealing lists, we leave it to each individual faction to identify spiked. This, though, carries the not insignificant disadvantage of having the group responsible for lynching having a significant vested interest against killing their own team members unless they are certain of guilt. We need the additional scrutiny. Okay, so… The thing is, individual factions will be better at spotting Inquisitors/Spiked among themselves, true. But that’s not just because they know who all of their members are. That really isn’t helpful to catching eliminators, in my opinion. Voting patterns aren’t going to be a huge help this game, particularly early game, just because it’s a conversion game. There’s not a team of eliminators controlling the voting - the four factions doing that will cover up anything that the eliminators try, in my opinion. Regardless of whether we know who’s on each faction. There’s only two of them right now. That’s not really enough to affect the vote, not with factions voting together and completely overpowering anything the Spiked try to do. Now, it’s true that the factions will be a little hesitant to lynch their own. But will revealing factions really help us that much in finding the Spiked among them? The reason that the factions will be better at catching their own Spiked isn’t because they know who each other are. It’ll be because they have a doc in which to talk. More talking means it’s easier to figure out what alignment they are. That’s not something that faction lists can help with. So that’s really my question: How does knowing what faction people are on help? Same thing as with spokespeople. It’s an interesting idea, but why? Aman: Not going to quote the post because it’s long and I want to address all of it, but it’s the one about Chaotics. I don’t know how I feel about you quoting me and then using that to argue against a particular playstyle. The whole point was to show that people weren’t better than each other just because they had different playstyles. That said, here’s basically how I stand on it: Every one of the categories I listed there can be used well or poorly. Chaotics can use that to great effect or not, as you point out. But every other style has the same problems: Aggressives are an obvious one. Meta’s a perfect example of a good aggressive, but there are certainly bad ones as well. (Fortunately, most of those don’t play anymore. ) On the other hand, Lurkers, a category, you’d normally say is bad, is used quite well by Alvron. No playstyle is good, and no playstyle is bad. It’s how you use that particular skill that counts. It’s just that some playstyles seem to get more flak than others because some of them (particularly Lurkers and Chaotics) tend to irritate the more talkative playstyles like Strategizer. But honestly? Everyone is free to play the game however they choose. If you want to play as a Chaotic just to have fun, and take risks and lie even when it hurts your team, that’s entirely your prerogative. Is it what I’d like you to do, or what your team would like you to do? Probably not. And you have to deal with that annoyance, if you want to play that way. But it’s still entirely your choice. So while I like the points you made in general, Aman, I think you went a bit too far in telling people how they should play. Couple points I did want to address specifically: 17 hours ago, Amanuensis said: I do not know why Strawman did what he did. I also do not know if the Mods talked with him about it afterwards. But I do know is, besides posting that they were upset by the turn of events, no one really talked about why what he did was so wrong. Why would the mods have talked to him about it afterwards? This isn’t a mod problem. This is a player problem. It’s a meta problem. It’s our job to deal with it, if we think it’s necessarily. The mods don’t police our community. They’re not here to fix things like inactives or Chaotics or whatever else. They just make sure everything runs smoothly, and that’s all. It’s up to us to do the rest: as you’re doing right now with this post. You saw a problem, you addressed it, and now it’s a topic for discussion. We’re not immature little kids who have to be policed for good behavior. We can deal with our own problems, and we do. And I personally think that’s awesome. Quote As many people before me have so obviously repeated, this is primarily a faction game. That is not all it is though, and if any House wants to have any chance of winning, everyone is going to have to all do their best to find the Spiked. Looking at it from both angles I want you to ask yourself who benefits from chaos? In my opinion only two types of people do. Those who are a part of causing that chaos, and those who know enough to render it irrelevant. Since I belong to neither of these categories, I suffer for it instead. And I’m certain that there are at least 19 other players in this game who do too, and who should also wish to see it end. Why 19 in particular? That seems oddly specific. Technically from a different quote but relevant here: Quote If we do not all take this seriously we will all lose. If you want to win you cannot let this happen. This is the difference, right here. You are in this to win. That’s your highest priority. Elodin (and Chaotics in general) are in it for the fun. Winning is secondary. So Elodin, if you don’t want to take this seriously, you don’t have to, in my opinion. And it is entirely up to you. 17 hours ago, Mailliw73 said: @Amanuensis I see your point. I tend to only cause Chaos that benefits me, if not my entire team. I shall rein in my Chaotic aspects this game though and stick more to the Manipulator/Strategist side. For that reason, Sart. I'll place my actual vote later. Fairly sure that’s not in fact what Aman was arguing. The difference is really that you have control over your Chaotic side. You use it for a purpose. You ride the storm: you’re not tossed about in it. So Let Chaos Reign, if you’d like. Whatever you think will benefit your faction, and the village as a whole, best. That’s all anyone can ask for, really. 17 hours ago, Master Elodin said: Of course I will help destroy the Spiked, but we have no evidence on anyone. Why is that so hard for people to understand? If there's nothing eliminator-catching that has to do with the lynch then I'll use it to mess with all the other houses and the Spiked. It's a smart decision, if I want to win. People keep saying this and acting like this is just another D1 lynch where we have no information. But that’s just not true. At this point we’ve had 48 hours to strategize with our teammates, and 48 hours to talk in thread. We had an entire night turn already! That’s a bit different from the normal situation of starting D1 with no information whatsoever. Again, I’m not saying you necessarily have to have reasoning in order to vote. But I am saying that you shouldn’t assume that you have no information for voting. Because if you assume that, you might as well have no information for how much it’s going to help you. 16 hours ago, Mckeedee123 said: Well, yeah, but the Spiked are still a massive threat. They stand a better chance of winning than any other faction if they're not specifically targeted. The inquisitor can just keep converting people until every single one of us still alive is spiked, and kill everyone else with the coinshots they've recruited. We need to root out the inquisitor as soon as possible, regardless of factional rivalries. I'm all for focusing on the inquisitor, and it's sort of frustrating that this is even the main topic of the discussion, but I do love how much people are posting. It's weird how active everyone is. Um. The Inquisitor’s conversions are limited. At the very least, they have no more than 8 conversions, one for each Allomantic power. (Unless they had a Duralumin spike or something. Which would be rather pointless, so I seriously doubt it, but I suppose it’s possible.) Although, hm. Ren, can the Inquisitor have more than one Spike of the same metal? Better to know, I suppose. So they can’t just convert everyone. I still agree that we should be focusing on the Inquisitor, but let’s focus on the Inquisitor as they actually are, shall we? They’re plenty powerful enough without unlimited conversions too. Quote Also, this whole lynching players strictly because they're a threat to your House, thing? I am passionately against this. Take a step back and honestly consider how that makes a player feel; to be killed for no other reason than being good. I don't know about any of you, but I don't join this games because I want to die. I join because I want to play. If you want to kill me or any other "reoccuring player" because there's genuine evidence against us, we've done something suspicious, or like Elodin here they're doing something that's hurting us all, then feel free. But lynching someone because they might find a way to outmaneuver you? How is that fun, let alone fair? How about your House puts your heads together to figure out a way to outmaneuver the players you're so scared of. Look at it this way. If every faction actively kills "high threat players" what does that leave? No high threat players left to help find the Spiked. And if you're the one or two "high threat players" that survive that initial onslaught, guess what? The Spiked are just going to kill you, next. Mostly agreed here. The “how a player feels for being killed/lynched for being good” - that’s something that happens in every game. Just usually it’s with the eliminator kill rather than the lynch. (Although there have been instances of lynching high-threat players basically just because people are so scared/paranoid about them.) No one wants to die, regardless of threat level. Are you saying we should kill off lower threat players because they’re not useful? Because that’s so much better and fairer. But lynching based on suspicion is definitely better, I’d agree. And really? I don’t want to kill dangerous players. Not to be fair to them or anything, because there’s no way to be fair about killing people. But, well, two reasons. First, as Aman said, those players will be really useful in catching the Spiked, in all likelihood. If we kill all of the analysts, the Spiked will have a much easier time pulling off a win in the fog of war that remains. In particular, in Aman’s case, he’s even focusing on the Inquisitor a lot more than the faction war anyway. So why not let him keep doing that? Could be a different story in his doc, of course, but he’ll at least be a great help towards finding the Inquisitor, which I judge to be more of an advantage than that gained by killing a high-profile player. Particularly when there are high-threat players who aren’t focused on the Inquisitor. They’re a lot more dangerous than Aman right now, in my opinion. And secondly, because the game’s a lot more interesting when I can test myself against those high-threat players, rather than just killing them all off because they’re a danger. Outwitting is much more fun than just getting rid of them altogether. This’ll probably be the last post I do this cycle, unfortunately. I’ll be on tomorrow to an extent and watching the thread, but I won’t be posting unless I see something urgent. So, if I’m going to vote… I think I’ll put it on Orlok. It’s not much suspicion, but it does seem kind of weird to me that he’s focused so much on revealing faction lists, for which I’ve found no actual benefit. Quote You just killed a potential mistcloak customer. If you didn't notice, Thanata already had a mistcloak, thank you very much. Here’s hoping the formatting works this time… EDIT: Rusts, so close. EDIT 10: That took way too long. EDIT 12: So my vote didn't copy over and I didn't notice until this morning... Edited June 30, 2016 by Elbereth 2
STINK he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) ^ Clearly following after Wilson more than Alv Edit: Gonna be boarding my flight soon, so after this post all activity from me is uncertain sorry. Won't be able to do 'Chaotic' stuff haha (btw thanks for the complement when you put me as a good one :P) Edited June 30, 2016 by STINK 1
Elbereth she/her Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Oh, shush. I haven't been in a doc with Alv for weeks now, whereas I've talked basically every day with Wilson, so... I'm not surprised I'm reflecting her more right now. I hate quote formatting. Good night.
Young Bard he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Just a notice about why I might not have been as active (or active at all). End of term is coming up, and there's always an incredible amount of work due on the last day/week. So, this will probably be my only post this day turn. However, the good news is that the rest of this game I'll be on holidays, which means I'll be able to be a lot more active than usual. In the meantime, sorry for the absence. OK. This won't be as in-depth as I'd like it to be, but I'll vote Maill. I don't really have anything against him at this point, but I don't really have anything against anyone at this point. And, Aman raised some good points about Chaotics, which Maill is certainly one. In addition, Maill has a tendency to work out or receive a lot of information, which he usually keeps to himself (or which he might pass to his faction this game). So, consider this an encouragement to be more open about your thoughts, Maill. And finally, I consider you to be one of the most powerful players in the game, and I know you're not on my side, so without knowing roles, I'll vote for skill instead. (I'll probably see your response very late tonight if you want to try to convince me otherwise). Also, I want those boxings.
phattemer Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Rust it, everyone else didn't hop on. Guess it's time to find another one! Aman. Mailliw
Bugsy he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) I only have wifi for a short period of time, so I haven't been able to read the whole thread. I will when I get home in roughly 4 hours. That said, my RNG says Phatt is suspicious! I'll change that when I get home and have time to analyze, but for now I want boxings Edited June 30, 2016 by Bugsy6912 Remove vote
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, The Young Bard said: OK. This won't be as in-depth as I'd like it to be, but I'll vote Maill. I don't really have anything against him at this point, but I don't really have anything against anyone at this point. And, Aman raised some good points about Chaotics, which Maill is certainly one. In addition, Maill has a tendency to work out or receive a lot of information, which he usually keeps to himself (or which he might pass to his faction this game). So, consider this an encouragement to be more open about your thoughts, Maill. And finally, I consider you to be one of the most powerful players in the game, and I know you're not on my side, so without knowing roles, I'll vote for skill instead. (I'll probably see your response very late tonight if you want to try to convince me otherwise). Also, I want those boxings. While yes, I can be Chaotic, my Chaos only tends to hurt the village if I'm a neutral role. Also, I just told Aman I'd keep it under control this game. Everyone thinks I get so much information. I don't know why. There's no PMs even possible yet, so any information I have about players not in my faction comes from right here, which you all have the exact same access to. So, not sure how I'd get any more info than you. I'll take that last part as a compliment. PK. Edited June 30, 2016 by Mailliw73 I don't wanna die, so...I'm voting
Paranoid King he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mailliw73 said: PK. That makes 6 people voting on me, I think. But no, this isn't a bandwagon. This is a perfectly logical train of events. Let's see what led up to it: I said I thought Elodin might have been converted because of his joke post. Problem is, I phrased it as, "If I were the inquisitor," which makes people more likely to vote on me. Elodin had his great parody in which he pointed out that Aman was more likely to be lynched than me. Afterwards, I questioned the votes on me, reaffirming my vote on Elodin. Elodin then voted on me because I continued to vote for him even though he hadn't voted for me, and had put me in his song. More people voted on me because they were rather high on in votes themselves, and didn't want to be lynched. Also, I'm not in their house, which makes it okay. These are logical reasons that I'm being voted on, sure. But are they good reasons? Do these statements point towards me being spiked? No. When the inquisitor posts, he always remembers that he's the inquisitor. That being said, he would try to make posts that don't remind people of his existence. I think a normal person would be more likely to make a post like this than the inquisitor would. No. Elodin put me in his song. So? I kept my vote because I think his joking post was a mistake which would make the inquisitor target him. Nothing against him, he's just my top suspect. But if putting people in parodies helps... Spoiler (To the tune of row, row, row your boat) Sart, Conquestor, Elodin, McDee123, The Only Joe and Mailliw, are all voting for me. 3. No. May I remind people that this is not MR7? The eliminators have a way to kill, they can target the strongest people to convert, and they are much more difficult to out. They're meant to be eliminators. Let me remind you of the inquisitor's win con: To eliminate all non-spiked players. Joe, that may mess with your plan of only 1 person left from each faction. If you want to fulfill that plan, you need to take out the spiked players first. If you think I'm a spiked player, then go ahead and vote for me. But so far, I've seen nobody pointing out why I might be spiked. Until you have a reason, please vote for someone you actually suspect and stop the pileups that the eliminators so love. 2
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 PK, you're right. Number 3 is exactly it. Sorry. And the Spiked have a kill? I didn't know that. How do you know that?
Nyali she/her Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mailliw73 said: PK, you're right. Number 3 is exactly it. Sorry. And the Spiked have a kill? I didn't know that. How do you know that? I think most of us are assuming that the Inquisitor started with a Steel spike. I honestly can't imagine them not starting with one. It gives the eliminators an every other turn faction kill, and one that works within the same framework as the other players with night kills, making it harder to spot.
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Hm. No guarantees on my activity levels for the next few days. Finally getting around to reading Way of Kings. Ill be keeping up with thread but yeah, no guarantees on activity. Hm. Im throwing my vote on Straw basically cause i want the boxings and there aren't any votes on you currently.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nyali said: I think most of us are assuming that the Inquisitor started with a Steel spike. I honestly can't imagine them not starting with one. It gives the eliminators an every other turn faction kill, and one that works within the same framework as the other players with night kills, making it harder to spot. Assuming, yes. But PK says it like its a fact. And, I could see the Inquisitor going either way. It depends on how Ren views it. Is the Inquisitor an Eliminator? Then they'd likely get a kill. If they're another faction, then no.
Paranoid King he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, Mailliw73 said: PK, you're right. Number 3 is exactly it. Sorry. And the Spiked have a kill? I didn't know that. How do you know that? Nyali explained it exactly. In MR7, discovery had no way to make a kill. In this game, they can both kill and convert.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Just now, Paranoid King said: Nyali explained it exactly. In MR7, discovery had no way to make a kill. In this game, they can both kill and convert. See my above post.
Paranoid King he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Mailliw73 said: See my above post. Who will the inquisitor convert? Strong players and suspected coinshots. Even if they don't start with a steel spike, they'll likely end up with a coinshot.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) Just now, Paranoid King said: Who will the inquisitor convert? Strong players and suspected coinshots. Even if they don't start with a steel spike, they'll likely end up with a coinshot. I'm only being more convinced to keep my vote. But, give me another feasible lynch target and we'll see if I switch. Edited June 30, 2016 by Mailliw73 Added paragraph.
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