Normad20 he/him Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I don't know if this has already been posted, but I have a theory about Vax that I think might be new. What if it's a gas giant? Scadrial's Cognitive Realm is made of mist, so it would probably look similar to the atmosphere of a gas giant (I think. I'm a writer, not a scientist). Maybe Ati/Ruin has been to Vax before, and thought that he had appeared there after his death (hence his apparent confusion). I know that there's some scientific issues with living on a gas giant, but honestly, if anyone can write a fantasy novel set on one, it would be Brandon Sanderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRyan he/him Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 While I don't, off the top of my head, have anything that would necessarily disprove this theory I would rate it as "Super clever but highly unlikely" haha. Cheers to you if you end up being right though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 as you said, there are scientific issues with living on a gas giant. the first one is that, while a gas giant has an atmosphere that may resemble mist, it does not have a surface. so a person on it would just sink into the atmosphere until he's cooked by the rising temperature or crushed by the pressure, whichever comes first. The second is that gases are stratified by density in those planets, and when you arrive at the oxygen layer - which would be required to support people - the pressure is already high enough to kill. There is also no liquid water on those planets, though there is plenty of water vapor - but the same thing about stratification and pressure applies. Then there are the facts that all gas giants have extremely caotic atmospheres with winds that make terrestrial hurricanes look like gentle breezes, and that those planets emit letal doses of radiations, just off the top of my head. I doubt even sanderson could make it work in a believable way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 If you've got active Shardic presence, I think a Cloud-City-like setup would definitely be possible. Silence Divine reading, I think it was, had cities floating over a world covered in lava. Shards have strong influences on weather phenomena (mists in Mistborn, highstorms in SA), so a Shard 'terraforming' and protecting a region of stability inside a gas giant doesn't seem too far out to me. And I don't think it even breaks the top 10 weirdest theories for what Vax is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Maybe Vax is the place where Ruin & Preservation were before to go together to create Scadrial. It's possible that Vax is a misty place and R&P made Scadrial like that because they liked Vax Edited June 10, 2016 by Yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozndevl Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Or maybe they coalesced Vax the gas giant into the rocky planet Scadrial. They needed to get the mass somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Or maybe they coalesced Vax the gas giant into the rocky planet Scadrial. They needed to get the mass somewhere. Investiture may become Energy/Matter and Vax is a place with his own Magic System and exist in the same time with Scadrial. It's impossible that Vax is a "Pre-Scadrial" Edited June 10, 2016 by Yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu he/him Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Investiture may become Energy/Matter and Vax is a place with his own Magic System and exist in the same time with Scadrial. It's impossible that Vax is a "Pre-Scadrial" Did I miss a WoB about Vax? jW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Just the Elantris Ars Arcanum, which says that Vax has a different Initiation than Scadrial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondesu he/him Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ah, gotcha. Haven't looked through the new edition of Elantris yet. jW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ah, gotcha. Haven't looked through the new edition of Elantris yet. jW Sorry man, I forgot the reference in tag spoiler I will post the part with Vax's reference... It's far to be a real Spoiler, because in the end it just some lines of "I don't know". But this isn't the right section of the Forum therefore the Spoiler Tag are needed. Spoiler from Elantris 10th anniversary How, then, is a practitioner of AonDor Initiated? It does not appear to be tied to family descent, as one finds on Scadrial, nor is it a specific Shard’s Decision, as on Nalthis. Even Taldain’s and Vax’s methods do not seem to apply here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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