shinigamisid he/him Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm reading Alloy of Law and I just thought of something. We know that Preservation tried to help Vin several times, but couldn't because of her earring, right? But why didn't the mists reach out to Elend like they did to Vin at the end of THoA? I mean.... Vin was using Hemalurgy, so I get why the mists couldn't help her. But they could have helped Elend in THoA, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) But they can't, not on purpose. Elend wasn't . . . whatever it is that Vin was. The mists had an affinity towards her from the beginning. And then Vin Ascended and she did basically give the mist-effect to him because someone is finally controlling the power again, unlike before when they were autonomous. Edited March 6, 2016 by natc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinigamisid he/him Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 But they can't, not on purpose. Elend wasn't . . . whatever it is that Vin was. The mists had an affinity towards her from the beginning. And then Vin Ascended and she did basically give the mist-effect to him because someone is finally controlling the power again, unlike before when they were autonomous. The mists can't do it to any Mistborn? Why not? What's so special about Vin except that she was born Mistborn? Before Vin Ascended, wasn't Preservation held by someone else? A black-haired man with a strong nose or something. The one who speaks to Elend and dies. So, I don't think the mists were EVER autonomous. They just had a weakened consciousness for imprisoning Ruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Preservation has been on the brink of death for years and practically braindead for millenia keeping Ruin contained. The mists were running on auto, or he'd have done something about Ruin boosting the lethality of it. Or had stopped Vin from killing the Lord Ruler with it. The man was a tyrant, but he was the epitome of Preserving in that era. As for Vin . . . well, get to Mistborn: Secret History. Though you might want to finish Bands of Mourning first. To put it vaguely it's all about Connection to the power. Even if Preservation wasn't dying he couldn't give his power to any random joe if he tried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard he/him Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Vin was, for want of a less stereotypical phrase, the 'Chosen One'. It was always intended that she would be the one to take up the power of Preservation after Leras (that black haired man with the strong nose) died. Her taking in the mists... That was a sort of forward loan, to prevent her from dying (although she couldn't Ascend until Leras was out of the way). Then she sort of derailed all of Preservation/Leras's plans anyway, so that whole thing was sort of redundant. (There's more complicated things going on behind the scenes as well. You might here more about that when Marasi has a chat with someone about the Words of Founding in SoS, and even more in Secret History.) Edited March 6, 2016 by The Young Bard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'd actually say the plan went off without a hitch. The end goal was to eliminate Ruin. That can't be done as long as Leras was still Preservation. The only way was to "screw up" and let Ruin kill him, and then gamble on convincing the chosen new Vessel into committing to a kamikaze attack somehow. When Elend let Marsh kill him Ruin was officially outplayed by a thousands-of-years-old gambit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinigamisid he/him Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Thanks, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Some of this might become clearer in Mistborn: Secret History, as it reveals a lot about the inner workings of the Metallic Arts, but I believe the answer you are looking for is Connection. Which, without revealing too much, seems to be a Spiritual property representing how, well, connected people and things are. The reason Vin could Ascend to Preservation was because she was strongly Connected to it. The reason she could fuel her Allomancy with the mists - her Connection with Preservation. The reason she could, once she had Ascended, fuel Elend's Allomancy? Her Connection with him. And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon314 he/him Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 they did, to an extent. Remember, the mist spirit (preservation) appeared last to elend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoAjah he/him Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 they did, to an extent. Remember, the mist spirit (preservation) appeared last to elend Was that not Kel again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Was that not Kel again? No. I don't want to derail the thread with spoiler-hidden answers to spoiler-hidden questions, but it's clear that this is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoAjah he/him Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Fair enough, thought there was a WoB about that, but just seen the annotated version and it agreed with what you say so that's canon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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