Darkness he/him Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I just had a bit of a jolting realization: Spoilers for Mistborn first trilogy Ruin was able to influence people based on how much their souls were cracked. Adding more spikes (tearing off pieces of the soul) made an inquisitor more susceptible to Ruin, Vin was more susceptible with her earring in, etc... What if that is a common thing across Shards? Shards can influence people with cracks in their soul more than whole people... we see this with the way spren choose broken people as well. Here comes the scary part: What if the Radiants, as they progressed through the oaths (i.e. receiving more power, causing larger rifts in their souls), became more and more susceptible to Odium's influence. Eventually they would realize that as they become stronger, they become more susceptible to corruption. Is this perhaps why they disbanded the orders and left their spren? I've long thought that the spren had to go along with the recreance (otherwise they could have just refused to be shardblades when they were being abandoned). It would be a good reason to leave if they had a bad experience with Radiants getting corrupted once they became powerful enough. This would also mean that Kaladin and our new Radiants will likely eventually have to deal with having an increased presence of Odium in them as they grow more powerful... especially now that Honor is dead and can't fill those cracks himself as readily (maybe?) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Allomancers are broken in similar way Surgebinders are. Yet Allomancers are not suspectible to Shardic influence unless spiked.For Odium to control Listeners he needed to create voidspren; yet Rlain didn't go stormform, I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) For Odium to control Listeners he needed to create voidspren; yet Rlain didn't go stormform, I wonder why.The Listeners who became Stormform were the ones that purposefully went out during a Highstorm with a traped stormspren and the right mindset.If you are wondering why Rlain didn't go Stormform during the Everstorm, it is said parshmen, AKA, slaveform/formless Listeners will be turned into voidbringers. I'd say that since he has a spren, his spiritweb is complete and the spren-shaped hole in it closed, so he would have to try to change forms during the Everstorm or be somehow forced into slaveform to become a voidbringer against his will. Edited February 17, 2016 by DreamEternal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 This indicates that if you have your crack in spiritweb filled with spren, Nahel bond with spren, or connection to Preservation, you're quite safe from outside influence.Note that Hemalurgic creations have Hemalurgic spikes in them, connecting them to Ruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Twit he/him Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 This indicates that if you have your crack in spiritweb filled with spren, Nahel bond with spren, or connection to Preservation, you're quite safe from outside influence. Note that Hemalurgic creations have Hemalurgic spikes in them, connecting them to Ruin. Well, it more that whichever outside influence gets to you first fills the cracks in your spirit web, which helps protect you from other outside influences getting in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness he/him Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Well, it more that whichever outside influence gets to you first fills the cracks in your spirit web, which helps protect you from other outside influences getting in. Like investiture messing with other investiture... I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vander Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I like this! On the other hand, it seems a bit weird that the Radiants were capable enough to fight Odium's forces for a Hundred Desolations if they were susceptible like this. Just my two cents. Edited February 20, 2016 by Car'a'carn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Like investiture messing with other investiture... I like it! "You got Preservation in my Endowment!" "No you got Endowment in my Preservation!" Wait did I just date myself a bit to much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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