Kinolee Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) The Ire mentions Fortune, with a capital F. It sounds like a Shard to me. "You always jump at stories, Alonoe. Not every coincidence is a sign of someone drawing upon Fortune." - Location 1389, Kindle Are we absolutely positive that there is no Shard on Threnody? I haven't read Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell because I didn't think it was important in the greater scheme of the Cosmere. I suppose I need to rethink that position now. Also, who is Senna? Whoever she is, she's likely the bearer of a Shard. Preservation mentions her. "Oh, Senna..." Preservation whispered "I'm losing this place. Losing them all..." -Location 823, Kindle Maybe Senna is the holder of Fortune. Maybe she's someone totally different. Why do I assume she's a she? Edited January 29, 2016 by Kinolee
The Invested Beard Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I would think that we should always frame Shards' aspects around characteristics of divinity. Not sure if Fortune fits. Is there room for blind chance in omnipotence?
Kinolee Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 Possibly? Einstein didn't think so, but Stephen Hawking does. "Not only does God play dice, but, He sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen." I just don't know what else Fortune would be. Is she talking about the Feruchemical property of Chromium? Why use a capital F? None of the other attributes are capitalized in this way.
WeiryWriter he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I've edited the title, please try to be vague when naming threads (as per the current spoiler policy). Anyway there is already a thread discussing whether Fortune is a Shard here. And yes we are absolutely positive there is no Shard on Threnody, there is WoB on that somewhere.
spencer12347 he/him Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I want to know who Senna is. Thats my sister's name.
The Invested Beard Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I want to know who Senna is. Thats my sister's name. Then Senna is your sister. Mystery solved! Payment can be made in full to my secretary/beard. 1
ecohansen Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 If you look t the ars arcanum in, for example, Shadows of Self, you'll see that in the Ferruchemical column Chromium "stores Fortune" with a capital F. A person tapping chromium will become more lucky. "Not every coincidence is a sign of someone drawing upon Fortune" is an idiom like "not all that glitters is gold". 2
Kinolee Posted January 30, 2016 Author Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) I really don't think it's Feruchemy, though. Iron stores weight, not Weight. Steel stores speed, not Speed. I also don't see why an Elantrian would use an idiom that involves Scadrian Feruchemy, especially regarding a metal (Chromium) that was completely unknown to the Feruchemists of that time. They didn't even know that there were 16 metals back then. It's not a phrase that would have ever been used on Scadrial at the time, let alone Sel. Edited January 30, 2016 by Kinolee
The Invested Beard Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Maybe Fortune is one of those specific investitures that supersede magic systems like Connection.
Voidus Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 It's also not likely to be unique to Scadrial, if fortune exists as a storable trait that means it's a quantifiable trait in the cosmere, knowledgable worldhoppers would be aware of it.
carl_saiyan Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 All the feruchemical (and allomantic) powers in the ars arcanum are capitalized. Methinks Fortune to be a shard. I've always figured Hoid to be a pawn of chance, despite the little we know about him. Alonoe's definitely after Hoid and also on the alert for someone "drawing upon Fortune." Is it crazy to think that Hoid and Fortune are connected somehow?
Blrry Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 I only know Senna as a laxative... Speaking of Fortune, I thought it an unfortunate name choice.
Moogle Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 The Ire mentions Fortune, with a capital F. It sounds like a Shard to me. Bands spoilers: It's used with a capital in Bands: He paused, and circled his pointer around a group of metals and abilities at the bottom: Fortune, Investiture, Identity, and Connection. Wax leaned forward. They’d spoken of these during his year living in the Village, but only as part of the catechisms of Feruchemy and Terris belief. None of those specified what the powers actually did. They were considered beyond understanding, like God, or time.
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