Oversleep Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I just realized some crucial difference: some Shardholders have more freedom in their deeds than the others, regardless of their minds being warped to its Shard Intent or not.It depends on the Intent.For example: Preservation - makes it holder want to preserve all things. Cannot create, cannot change, can only preserve. Ruin - makes it holder want to ruin everything. Cannot create, cannot preserve, can only ruin. Odium - makes it holder want to hate everything (and apparently being hated by everyone) while Shards like: Honor - makes it holder want to be honorable... but he still has freedom to do anything, as long as it's a honorable thing and he is honorable about it Devotion - similarly, it only requires the holder to be devoted to some cause, doesn't specify what cause. And maybe inspire devotion in others. It's late in the night, so I will try to map other Shards later 1
natc Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I'd say as far as the oathpact is concerned Honor got the much better deal than what the Heralds were stuck with. It's not all that honorable at all. The honorable ones here are the Heralds for doing it anyway for the greater good.
Yata he/him Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Honor is more about to "put together (or bonding) things/people". But you are probably wrong about. All the Shard's Intent give to the Holder a "path" but the Holder had the freedom to how walk on it. For example, Leras and Ati were capable of creating for the only purpose to follow after their Intent (Ruin destroing his creation and Preservation blocking an Agent of Destruction like Ruin). Rayse put the hatred of Odium aganist the other Shard while He may target a lot of things. Devotion (or Love) will probably bound to help with all his tools everyone. But she has freedom to choose how doing it.
Blightsong he/him Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I don't think Honor should be assumed to be a "good" shard. Honor means to fulfil an obligation or to keep an agreement. The nature of that obligation or agreement doesn't have to be good.
Moogle Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Ruin was capable of creating things in order to destroy them later, and Preservation was capable of destroying things to preserve (knifing Elend). As HoA puts it: Ruin could plan and carefully plot, knowing if he built one thing up, he could use it to knock down two others. The nature of the world is that when we create something, we often destroy something else in the process.
Oversleep Posted November 30, 2015 Author Posted November 30, 2015 Ruin was capable of creating things in order to destroy them later, and Preservation was capable of destroying things to preserve (knifing Elend). As HoA puts it: Ruin could plan and carefully plot, knowing if he built one thing up, he could use it to knock down two others. The nature of the world is that when we create something, we often destroy something else in the process. the difference here is that Leras knew that Elend will be okay. Vin would heal him or he would become Mistborn. It's a preserve-preserve situation. And Ruin did not create. He simply destroyed a thing to augment another. But you are probably wrong about. All the Shard's Intent give to the Holder a "path" but the Holder had the freedom to how walk on it. For example, Leras and Ati were capable of creating for the only purpose to follow after their Intent (Ruin destroing his creation and Preservation blocking an Agent of Destruction like Ruin). Rayse put the hatred of Odium aganist the other Shard while He may target a lot of things. Devotion (or Love) will probably bound to help with all his tools everyone. But she has freedom to choose how doing it. yeah, Odium is probably one of these Shards with more freedomI'd say as far as the oathpact is concerned Honor got the much better deal than what the Heralds were stuck with. It's not all that honorable at all. The honorable ones here are the Heralds for doing it anyway for the greater good. Well, Honor knew what Odium is up to, so he chose humans he deemed worthy and gave them a choice. He didn't force Oathpact on them. They knew what they were agreeing to do. And Tanavast probably knew that Rayse will kill him, so he did something to give humanity (and other Shards since Rayse seems trapped) a chance even without him around.
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