baby he/him Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) So if a misting, say tin, burned a lerasium-pewter alloy, would their sDNA get completely rewritten so they're just a pewter misting, or would it overlap, creating HoA Spook sans Ruin? Since lerasium can be burned by anyone, I suppose the alloys can too. Edited November 25, 2015 by Once-ler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle of the Forest Path he/him Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 First, small correction, it's the spiritweb that gets rewritten by Lerasium (and it's alloys), not sDNA IIRC. I can see this going both ways. It may depend on how Allomancy is encoded on the spiritweb in the first place. Is there a different "area" (or point) for each allomantic metal, or is there a general area for allomancy and the contents of that area determine the metal one can burn? In the latter case, I can definitely see the tin abitily getting discarded for the pewter ability. Also, Snapping: Are Scadrian children with the potential for allomancy already divided into proto-thugs and proto-soothers and so on before they snap? Or are they proto-allomancers in general, and the type of misting gets determined when Preservation fill the cracks in the spiritweb when they snap? Maybe influenced by the rest of the spiritweb but mostly random. And finally, it depends on how Lerasium works. We don't know if burning Lerasium or one of it's alloys just sticks the bit with the ability onto your spiritweb (like hemalurgy without all the blood) or if it rewrites the spiritweb from the ground up, including the allomantic power (maybe like the Shaod in Elantris, though we don't know how that works either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 To me probably the Lerasium Alloy will rewrite your own power. The opposite will be aganist the Allomancy's Rules. Probably the "best use" of a Metal-Lerasium Alloy is with someone that had already that specific Metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 But since lerasium just adds up 'Preservation' in one's Spiritual self (it makes Mistborn as a side-effect, it's not just some magical metal which turns on Allomancy), I strongly believe its alloys just filter the essence of Preservation through this metal while adding it up. So Tineye who burned lerasium-pewter would be able to burn both tin and pewter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth she/her Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I swear I remember reading a WoB where he specifically said that the lerasium alloy completely overwrote the Misting's original metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 he/him Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 It may depend on how Allomancy is encoded on the spiritweb in the first place. Is there a different "area" (or point) for each allomantic metal, or is there a general area for allomancy and the contents of that area determine the metal one can burn? Hemalurgy's dependency on "bind points" suggests that there are different points for each metal. However, these points are demonstrably different between taking the powers ("Most commonly attributes are stolen through the heart.") and bestowing the powers (the list of known successful spike/bind point combinations and the powers they bestow is too great to list here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Well, see, it makes sense. When you're trying to transplant a soul you can't just put it back where you got it, since there's something there already. It could be possible that bind points correlate to certain parts of the spiritweb where the spiritual "genes" can be functionally grafted to without breaking everything down. I mean, mutations still hapoen, but at least you don't die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I found a WoB. ShardletIf Vin and Elend hypothetically each blindly ingested equivalently sized beads of lerasium, would Vin be a stronger Mistborn than Elend, or would they be equal?Brandon SandersonYes, Vin would be stronger. It is additive, not just an overwrite.The same thing happens with Hemalurgy; with Hemalurgy when you're spiking someone's soul, you're ripping off a piece and adding it.source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I found a WoB. But to be a double Misting is impossible with the Allomancy's Rules alone (the Hemalurgy "brokes" the rules) therefore probably It impossible to have only "two allomantic power" (ex Allomantic Steel and Allomantic Iron) with the use of a Lerasium's alloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 But to be a double Misting is impossible with the Allomancy's Rules alone (the Hemalurgy "brokes" the rules) therefore probably It impossible to have only "two allomantic power" (ex Allomantic Steel and Allomantic Iron) with the use of a Lerasium's alloy. I think the point is that it's impossible naturally, but much like hemalurgy Lerasium is an unnatural addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think the point is that it's impossible naturally, but much like hemalurgy Lerasium is an unnatural addition. Maybe you have right. But the Lerasium is within the Allomancy rules. While you may say that "Hemalurgy change the rules through the mixing of different magic System". With the "simply" use of Lerasium's Alloy, we are within the "allomancy rules" and I find unlikely that Allomancy broke itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Maybe you have right. But the Lerasium is within the Allomancy rules. While you may say that "Hemalurgy change the rules through the mixing of different magic System". With the "simply" use of Lerasium's Alloy, we are within the "allomancy rules" and I find unlikely that Allomancy broke itself. Well technically Mistborn aren't within natural allomancy rules either, saying that it's outside of Allomancy's rules to have someone with two Allomantic abiltieis isn't quite correct all we know is that it doesn't happen naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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