Melriken Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Storm wardens predict the seasons, so they are caused by something(s) cyclical (not the mood of the Spren or something arbitrary like that). Roshar's rotational axis is orthogonal to it's orbit, so seasons are NOT caused by solar orbit as they are on earth. Roshar's moons rise and set at the same time each day so seasons are not caused by Lunar orbit(s). No mention of other planets in extremely close orbit so nothing like that causes the seasons. What the causes the Seasons? 5
CHOUTAGOD he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 The Stormfather maybe? Is just a guess but its the best I got! Good question though! Kings to you!!!
+Slowswift Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I think I saw somewhere that since there's really no axial tilt, the seasons are caused by highstorms upsetting weather patterns or something. 1
Melriken Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) The Stormfather maybe? Is just a guess but its the best I got! Good question though! Kings to you!!!how would the storm wardens predict it in this case?I think I saw somewhere that since there's really no axial tilt, the seasons are caused by highstorms upsetting weather patterns or something.wouldnt that make winter the post HS weather and it shift to summer if there isn't another HS soon enough or something like that? But that isn't the case weather patterns shift between HS and hold through HS in all kinds. Edited November 12, 2015 by Melriken
Charononus Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Storm wardens predict the seasons, so they are caused by something(s) cyclical (not the mood of the Spren or something arbitrary like that). Roshar's rotational axis is orthogonal to it's orbit, so seasons are NOT caused by solar orbit as they are on earth. Roshar's moons rise and set at the same time each day so seasons are not caused by Lunar orbit(s). No mention of other planets in extremely close orbit so nothing like that causes the seasons. What the causes the Seasons? Is there a WoB on the axis? I always assumed the axis wobbled irregularly as a result of shardic power, perhaps unintentional perhaps not.
WeiryWriter he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 We actually do have WoB on this, the seasons aren't actually seasons, and are more just a translation quirk. From Writing Excuses Season 9 Episode 23 One of the things that the person brought up is that in the Stormlight Archives, we have a planet without axial tilt and seasons don't happen the way that we imagine them on our planet. To them, when the... A season happens is oh, it got cold for a little while. It's winter now for a few weeks. Then when it's not cold anymore, it is not winter and now we're calling it spring. This is a translation effect that I put... That I said, "How am I going to get this across?" Well, to a person speaking English, they would call winter the cold time. So I'm going to translate what they say as the cold patch as winter. I did this to make it jarring, to... Then I made it incidental. These are the two things. It's mentioned incidentally, I did not make it a plot point. I made it just something that they talk about so when they say, "Oh, it looks like winter is going to be here for a few weeks. I hope that spring comes again in a couple of weeks." When it does, they're like, "Oh, good." When it lapses back in the winter, people who are paying attention are like, "This is bizarre. I don't understand this. But this is how it works." That worked really well in the Stormlight Archives because those people who really know about seasons and weather and things like this say, "oh, I know the astronomy of what's happening with this world. That is cool." For everyone else, is just a bizarre aspect of the world. It doesn't influence the plot in a major way, and you just accept it for what it is. (link to transcript) 2
Stormgate he/him Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 It seems that Roshar has two seasons, Highstorm season and the Weeping. The question shouldn't be 'What causes seasons on Roshar', but rather, 'What causes the Weeping?' Seriously, what causes the Weeping? I have a hunch that it's somehow related to the moons and Roshar's proximity to its star.
Charononus Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) It seems that Roshar has two seasons, Highstorm season and the Weeping. The question shouldn't be 'What causes seasons on Roshar', but rather, 'What causes the Weeping?' Seriously, what causes the Weeping? I have a hunch that it's somehow related to the moons and Roshar's proximity to its star. I don't think so. It's not a natural process, because if it was you wouldn't have the ending of WoR Where the Stormfather decides, well time to fire up a highstorm here as well. That implies he controls the highstorms, and so while the highstorms might be predictable, it means that they're not decided by anything natural, but by things supernatural. Edited November 23, 2015 by Charononus
Stormgate he/him Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Perhaps the Weeping is the natural weather of Roshar, and the Highstorms generally come too frequently to allow the Weeping to arrive. Then, because of some reason or another, the Stormfather needs the Highstorms to recharge for a longer period of time than normal.
The Honor Spren she/her Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) I was thinking that the weepings were of Cultivation. Edited November 24, 2015 by The Honor Spren 1
Oversleep Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) I don't think so. It's not a natural process, because if it was you wouldn't have the ending of WoR Where the Stormfather decides, well time to fire up a highstorm here as well. That implies he controls the highstorms, and so while the highstorms might be predictable, it means that they're not decided by anything natural, but by things supernatural. But he still sends a highstorm in 'possible' point in time - sometimes Weeping have a highstorm in the middle, sometimes not. I know it was a year without one, but Stormfather bent the rules a little and send one anyway. Bending rules a lot would be like sending two highstorms one after another. Edited November 24, 2015 by Oversleep
Landis963 he/him Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) We actually do have WoB on this, the seasons aren't actually seasons, and are more just a translation quirk. From Writing Excuses Season 9 Episode 23 (link to transcript) There's something in WoK that exemplifies this. I think Kaladin says something about 40 days of spring being unprecedented. One only imagines the zingers Hoid thinks up when he hears things like that. Edited November 25, 2015 by Landis963
Melriken Posted November 30, 2015 Author Posted November 30, 2015 It seems that Roshar has two seasons, Highstorm season and the Weeping. The question shouldn't be 'What causes seasons on Roshar', but rather, 'What causes the Weeping?' Seriously, what causes the Weeping? I have a hunch that it's somehow related to the moons and Roshar's proximity to its star.it can't be related to the moons, they are in a very strange orbit with a period of slightly less then one day (such that they orbit the planet N-1 times per year where N is the number of days in a year (there are 500 days between weepings, a year (as in an orbit of the sun) may infact be a different period), and in the direction opposite planetary rotation. Earth's moon rotates in the same direction as planetary rotation, as do most of our artificial satalites (it takes much more energy to get into a retrograde orbit)) so they wouldn't cause any disturbance on anything but a daily (tides for example) basis.
Dahak he/him Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 I was thinking that the weepings were of Cultivation. Which would make it slightly wierd the rains carry no crem during the weeping. Do we know the weeping happened before Honor died?
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