CJ Feboris Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Light came from above, too steady to be lightning. Something was glowing on the plateau Something that moved. It was hard to see, since water streamed off the side of the plateau above, falling in a sheet before their refuge. He swore he saw an enormous figure walking up there, glowing inhuman form, followed by another, alien and sleek. Striding the storm. Leg after leg, until the glow passed. WoR p. 875 "Striding the Storm" This quote leapt off the pages the first time I read this book, the second it did the same, even when I listened I could not get it out of my head and no on here has mentioned it. Maybe it is very obvious to everyone else, and therefore was of little consequence, but I think it might be important for the story. First, I see from the text, there are two figures up on the plateau. The first is huge, hulking and inhuman. The second is sleek and alien. Since alien = inhuman in this context, I'm not sure that the second adjective tells us much. The first figure is also said to be glowing although the second could be striding in the glow of the first. Brandon immediately pulls Kaladin's attention away from the plateau and turns him to Shallan after the above quote so we have no mention of it other than this that I noticed. So what is it that is out walking in the storms? Obviously it could be some major spren, but this seems to be too easy an answer here, I think there is something much more drastic going on, but I cannot put my finger on what it might be. Any thoughts? -cj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle of the Forest Path he/him Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I think the first one is the Stormfather, the second one I have no idea, though the many legs make me think some kind of chasmfiend or other greatshell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser he/him Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Here is where I discuss my wacky theory that they are Chasmfiend Larvae. The way I read the quote, both creatures could be the same type: each satisfyiing the criteria "glowing, inhuman, alien and sleek" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardbearer he/him Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 You know, when I read this I think I just assumed it was the Listeners going to get Stormform. Now that I look more closely, it doesn't seem like that is a valid interpretation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Some have suggested it may be Unmade. We know from Taravangian that one Unmade was moving west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Some have suggested it may be Unmade. We know from Taravangian that one Unmade was moving west. 2 unmade, to be precise. Eshonai said that stormform would attract the unmade's attention. Well, they've been attracted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardjet Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 You know, when I read this I think I just assumed it was the Listeners going to get Stormform. Now that I look more closely, it doesn't seem like that is a valid interpretation at all. I actually thought this as well, assuming the huge figure was Eshonai and the sleek alien one was a Listener in Stormform. But yeah, on top of those not really matching, Kaladin fought Eshonai at the Battle of the Tower. He'd recognize the Plate. Another mystery to ponder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm thinking Stormfather, Cogntive form and perhaps the Unmade causing the Thrill for the second figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I'm thinking Stormfather, Cogntive form and perhaps the Unmade causing the Thrill for the second figure I don't think it was the Stormfather. Why would he be leading an unmade to Narak? And in a more practical sense, why would he have to? It just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm pretty sure it's 2 different unmade. Here's a death rattle to consider: Re-Shephir, the Midnight Mother, giving birth to abominations with her essence so dark, so terrible, so consuming. So, could the sleeker one be the Re-Shephir, the Midnight Mother? If I understand the death rattle correctly, she's in charge of the Midnight Essences. According to the Coppermind, "The Midnight Essence's skin was smooth, slick, black, and reflective.[1] It had six extremely thin legs that were bent at the sides with clawed paws. The Midnight Essence's body seemed almost fluid, with a long and flexible neck and sharp teeth that appeared like knives." So, I'd expect Re-Shephir to have a somewhat similar appearance to the Midnight Essences. And from the Coppermind's description, "Alien and Sleek" would be pretty much a perfect descriptor for her appearance http://coppermind.net/wiki/Midnight_Essence 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalan'elin he/him Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I also believe the figures striding the storm are two of the Unmade. Patrick's theory on the alien and sleek one being Re-shephir makes a lot of sense. The other figure however is harder to pinpoint to a certain Unmade that we have seen so far. I think during my second re-read of WOR it seemed likely to me that the other glowing inhuman form was Moelach. "There is one you will watch. Though all of them have some relevance to precognition, Moelach is one of the most powerful in this regard. His touch seeps into a soul as it breaks apart from the body, creating manifestations powered by the spark of death itself." We know that Moelach is the most powerful in precognition, so he would definitely have reasons to be on his way to Narak. I just have this feeling like Moelach might be the one leading the Unmade in a sense, and I do remember reading about him being "on the move" aswell from the Taravangian Pov not 100% sure however that might've been Nergaoul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) I also believe the figures striding the storm are two of the Unmade. Patrick's theory on the alien and sleek one being Re-shephir makes a lot of sense. The other figure however is harder to pinpoint to a certain Unmade that we have seen so far. I think during my second re-read of WOR it seemed likely to me that the other glowing inhuman form was Moelach. "There is one you will watch. Though all of them have some relevance to precognition, Moelach is one of the most powerful in this regard. His touch seeps into a soul as it breaks apart from the body, creating manifestations powered by the spark of death itself." We know that Moelach is the most powerful in precognition, so he would definitely have reasons to be on his way to Narak. I just have this feeling like Moelach might be the one leading the Unmade in a sense, and I do remember reading about him being "on the move" aswell from the Taravangian Pov not 100% sure however that might've been Nergaoul. Actualy, Taravangian theorized Nergaul was moving West and Moelach was either on the move(though I forgot the way he was going) or starting to slumber again. He decided to not waste time tracking them because they didn't have the resources to deal with ancient evil spren. Yet. That last part about being able to eventualy deal with the unmade makes me think Mraize was undestimating Taravangian. Edited October 31, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser he/him Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 In my headcannon, the Unmade are no longer corporeal (explaining the name). After all, Taravangian refers to them as spren (I think). But there is very little evidence to support this, so these monsters being Unmade seems like a possibility. With many legs and sleek appearance, I still think they could be some kind of greatshell. The Alethi didn't know about the Chasmfiends until recently, so there could be other unknown creatures around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARARITA he/him Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I think that they are 2 of the Unmade - which ones ? I believe one is Nergaoul because it is responsible for the thrill the other ? not so sure ... there are some we know nothing about something I find interesting about the sighting - this is during a Storm / hiding them in a Storm and something I noticed and haven't mentioned on the boards until now - I think we have seen another Unmade in a Storm before Kal was watching over Dal during a vision and sees something through the shutters - something glows red hard cover page 286 in WoR and why does Pattern freaks out during Storms ? something is going on in the Storms / covered by Storms wonder if there are different Storms (time of day?) I believe we take for granted that the Storms are what they appear to be ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 In my headcannon, the Unmade are no longer corporeal (explaining the name). After all, Taravangian refers to them as spren (I think). But there is very little evidence to support this, so these monsters being Unmade seems like a possibility. With many legs and sleek appearance, I still think they could be some kind of greatshell. The Alethi didn't know about the Chasmfiends until recently, so there could be other unknown creatures around. They're definitely at least able to become corporeal (possibly like sprenblades, only full bodies), and that's if they are incorporeal to begin with. If I remember correctly, Yelig-nar killed Nohadon's wordsmen. Can't do that if they're completely incorporeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I think that they are 2 of the Unmade - which ones ? I believe one is Nergaoul because it is responsible for the thrill the other ? not so sure ... there are some we know nothing about The problem is, Nergaoul is moving towards the West from Alethkar to Jah Keved, according to the Diagrammists' observations on the Veden Civil War. On other hand, nice unmade, or at least stormspren, sighting. I had completely forgot that passage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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