JackAqua Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Hear me out: A Trueself can store "spiritual sense of identity" which might be useful for influencing oneself (e.g. store away your sense of procrastination and get to work), but it could also be used to store away one's sense of being a Mistborn. Pulling on this normally wouldn't do much, you can't become "more Misting". But if the spiritual DNA is anything like normal DNA, it might be that Mistings have the identity of a Mistborn in them, just can't access it all. The same goes for Ferrings and Feruchemy. . So you store away your sense of being a Misting/Mistborn in one metalmind, and your sense of being a Ferring/Feruchemist in another, and then you burn them and the tenfold identity pushes you over the edge and allows you to be a Full Feruchemist for as long as you are pulling identity. Of course, you have to down a vial full of metals afterwards to be useful, as burning aluminum burns all metal reserves, but it seems like this could still be useful. I assume that things stored away while being a Full Feruchemist stay stored away and you just can't access them. This makes effectively storing things extremely difficult, but (EDIT) you can always just compound them as you have full Mistborn powers. Edited October 28, 2015 by JackAqua 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 First, welcome to the boards, have an upvote! Second, I like this idea a lot. I doubt it will end up being true, but it is at least a cool concept, so I'm going to roll with it for a bit... Of course, you have to down a vial full of metals afterwards to be useful, as burning aluminum burns all metal reserves, but it seems like this could still be useful. If you're a compounder, you can burn your metalmind and even though it is Aluminum, it's not going to have the Allomantic aluminum result of depleting your metal stores, it will have the Feruchemical aluminum result of multiplicative "identity", whatever the signature of the Feruchemy stored, being released and therefore more storeable and therefore more tap-able to use on a consistent basis. So if you're theory is correct, and as long as you're burning an Aluminum that is Feruchemically charged by your own Feruchemy, you could reasonably become a Fullborn on a consistent basis. We don't have a clear idea of how "identity" works, but this is as good a one as any so far I think. I assume that things stored away while being a Full Feruchemist stay stored away and you just can't access them. This makes effectively storing things extremely difficult, but (EDIT) you can always just compound them as you have full Mistborn powers. You still would have to jump start the process by doing Feruchemical storage for each of the metalminds you wanted to compound before you could burn them to compound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathoth Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 FireArcadiaIs there any use to being a Copper compounder, from a feruchemical point of view? I think the same point would also apply to an Aluminium compounder. Brandon SandersonSome combinations, like some abilities themselves, aren't really that useful. That said, being able to compound copper...that could do some things. Aluminum, not so much. http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt=%27aluminum%27 It was an interesting idea though. Welcome to the forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAqua Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 First, welcome to the boards, have an upvote! Thanks! If you're a compounder, you can burn your metalmind and even though it is Aluminum, it's not going to have the Allomantic aluminum result of depleting your metal stores, it will have the Feruchemical aluminum result of multiplicative "identity" [...] Oh, I'd thought both happened at the same time, which is why Miles was so ... strange (him seeing an alternative version of himself at all times). I guess this is easier to manage, too, since you won't have to push on something as a Steel Compounder every time you want to be the Flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Generally the understanding is that you don't actively burn it as you use your powers. You would burn it away at once when convenient to obtain a metric truckload of feruchemical attribute, then shove it all in permanent metalminds. The amount you build up is preferably at such an obscene quantity that you can basically tap nonstop for days and not run out, like Miles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Oh, I'd thought both happened at the same time, which is why Miles was so ... strange (him seeing an alternative version of himself at all times). I guess this is easier to manage, too, since you won't have to push on something as a Steel Compounder every time you want to be the Flash. Compounders don't have to burn metal whenever they want a superboost; normally they burn their metalminds, take their superburst, and then store that in a metalmind. The point is that you get vast stores of the attribute, and you can tap them all at any speed you want. Edit: Ninja'd Edited October 28, 2015 by Moogle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAqua Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Compounders don't have to burn metal whenever they want a superboost; normally they burn their metalminds, take their superburst, and then store that in a metalmind. The point is that you get vast stores of the attribute, and you can tap them all at any speed you want. Edit: Ninja'd Oh ... that kind of undermines the need for compounding in my theory (,interally). Since you could just store up your identity for ages and then become a full Feruchemist for a day or so, depending on the amount needed to be "pushed over the edge". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Compounding can't achieve anything in a moment that pure feruchemy can't, yeah. It's just that what a normal feruchemist will take weeks, months, maybe years to save up in order to achieve the wanted results for a decent period of time, compounders can build up enough to do it on a regular basis without really harming anything except their wallets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari he/him Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Compounding can't achieve anything in a moment that pure feruchemy can't, yeah. It's just that what a normal feruchemist will take weeks, months, maybe years to save up in order to achieve the wanted results for a decent period of time, compounders can build up enough to do it on a regular basis without really harming anything except their wallets. Well, I think compounding copper could probably let you have your memories and store them too, perhaps, but yeah, it's more of a quantitative difference than a qualitative one. Edited October 29, 2015 by Ari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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