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I'll be honest, while I have read tge books (or had my father read them to me for the first ones) I don't really thing the house system has enough depth for fitting all characters. So all I know is that half of my characters would end up in Slytherin, because Slytherin = bad guys.

Twi, why are you a bad guy. :mellow:

To prove that not every Slytherin is evil and that the House has been demonized by an author who thinks bravery is the only admirable trait a hero needs.

And because pugs don't like stairs. :ph34r:

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To prove that not every Slytherin is evil and that the House has been demonized by an author who thinks bravery is the only admirable trait a hero needs.

And because pugs don't like stairs. :ph34r:

By the way, how does that whole sorting work anyway? Hermine seems much more in line with the Ravenclaw mindset. Not that she isn't also brave but I hope Rowling doesn't mean to imply all Ravenclaws are cowards deep down. So why? Because she's a protagonist and teens aren't allowed to have important friends outside their clique?

 

Wouldn't a magic pug be able to fly the stairs up? :ph34r:

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I'll get Iconoclast's dream and awakening sequence up once this end of day thing is all sorted out :)

Does anyone mind if he is the first post of the day? Would anyone like to go first? The placement of his post isn't important :)

 

I would like to start the new day with a Rainmaker / Euphoria post (which I will put together as soon as I figure out the necessary edits for my closing post.  

 

Okay, so I think that Insight's moving quickly, so Hypno wouldn't be prepared when the flower dropped and then when the sticks came, he might yell out a "Stop!" But in the time it'd take to process and say it, Insight would already be transitioning to Immateriality. So maybe he'd pause for a second or just slow down a bit, but once he's completely immaterial, Hypno's powers would have a very hard time working on him. The Epicness coupled with the the border of Immateriality and his current three or four Commands wouldn't be enough to affect Insight. He'd have to be much closer, louder and have no other Commands if Insight is in Immateriality.

 

Voidus, I think that what I decided about recordings in a PM was that they could be strung together of words from separate Commands, but there is Intent in them. The Intent is focused on certain individuals. So if Billy were to hear a recording of Hypno telling Bob to "run off a cliff", he'd just hear a recording. But if Billy heard a mashup recording of Hypno saying to Billy, at some point in the past to "run" "off" "a" and "cliff", it would work. But that second recording wouldn't work on Bob. Does that make sense?

Okay, sounds good.  

 

So, for final critique, the edits I will be adding to my next post are as follows (please chime in if you have anything to add):

 

1.  Rainmaker's Segment: Hypno gets in a single command "Stop."  Perhaps see Insight hesitate for half a second as he fights the command before going fully immaterial.  Maybe tighten up the time frame a little bit.

 

2.  Euphoria's Segment: Mention Insight barely escaping from Hypno's grasp, and establish that they have fled the immediate area and are out of earshot.  

 

3. Flashback Sequence - Add in some time for Euphoria to figure out her weakness, establish that she did not know it automatically.  

 

 

I think that's the sum of all the issues with it, but again, please let me know if anyone has something to add, or if I still need to split the post or anything.  I guess I got a bit ahead of myself, I was just really excited to get writing I guess.  

 

Also, as a side note, if people have time and feel up to it, I would really like some thoughts and some more general feed back on the post if possible (beyond continuity issues).  I felt really good writing it, but the spending the rest of the day in silence on here, and then doing all this revision work (which I'm fine with doing!) has killed my confidence a little.  I understand that I'm being self-indulgent here, and that there are a lot of other posts and things to talk about, but I would really appreciate it.  The thoughts and feed-back doesn't have to be positive either, I'd just like to have more of an idea of what people think of it.  I also get that it was pretty long, and understand if some people have not had time to read it all yet.  

 

Thanks for this, and for all the help with revisions!  I'll try to get those done today or tomorrow, and get a morning post up (including Princess GOOD's debut) tomorrow.  

 

On the Batman front, I was thinking his weakness might be bats (since he fears them in the new movies, at least), which would make his costume choice a similar strategy Firefight Spoilers:

to what Megan does with Firefight

.  Only live bats would work, so he wouldn't have to worry about the iconography of his costume affecting his powers, but who would think to use bats against Batman?  

 

Craig has been watching Heroes lately, and I keep thinking of cool ways to adapt the super powers in that show into epics.  I especially like Claire's power 

Minor Heroes Spoilers

to regenerate from any injury, no matter how deadly, as long as her brain is still capable of healing, even if it has been prevented from healing for some time. They deal with it slightly differently than similar powers have been dealt with here or in the books (kind of a cross between healing and reincarnation), which I think would be kind of cool.

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By the way, how does that whole sorting work anyway? Hermine seems much more in line with the Ravenclaw mindset. Not that she isn't also brave but I hope Rowling doesn't mean to imply all Ravenclaws are cowards deep down. So why? Because she's a protagonist and teens aren't allowed to have important friends outside their clique?

 

Wouldn't a magic pug be able to fly the stairs up? :ph34r:

Am i evil for wanting to see a pug try to climb a flight of stairs with his little pug legs, only to trip and fall the whole ride up?
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By the way, how does that whole sorting work anyway? Hermine seems much more in line with the Ravenclaw mindset. Not that she isn't also brave but I hope Rowling doesn't mean to imply all Ravenclaws are cowards deep down. So why? Because she's a protagonist and teens aren't allowed to have important friends outside their clique?

 

Wouldn't a magic pug be able to fly the stairs up? :ph34r:

 

I actually found a Tumblr page that defines the Houses better than Rowling ever did. Basically….

 

Gryffindor: Value right and wrong, believe morality is largely instinctive and that acting on that morality is essential 

Ravenclaw: Also value right and wrong, but believe the truth is something you find, often disturb Gryffindors by questioning beliefs Gryffindors believe to be beyond question 

Hufflepuff: Value community and treating all people with respect and kindness in an effort to build a bigger and better community 

Slytherin: Value smaller, more tight-knit communities than Hufflepuffs, and will do anything for the people they consider "theirs" 

 

The page also holds that many of Rowling's Sortings were wrong; Draco, for instance, they think is actually a Hufflepuff primary who models Slytherin values because that is his community, and Ginny is a Slytherin primary who fights for Gryffindor not because it is right, but because it's hers. 

 

By this model, I think Regalia and David would be Gryffindors, while Obliteration would be a Ravenclaw. 

 

Edit: Yes, that is a good point. I want a flying pug now. :ph34r:

 

Double edit: Yes, Illuminati. Yes you are. 

Edited by TwiLyghtSansSparkles
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I would like to start the new day with a Rainmaker / Euphoria post (which I will put together as soon as I figure out the necessary edits for my closing post.

Okay, sounds good.

So, for final critique, the edits I will be adding to my next post are as follows (please chime in if you have anything to add):

1. Rainmaker's Segment: Hypno gets in a single command "Stop." Perhaps see Insight hesitate for half a second as he fights the command before going fully immaterial. Maybe tighten up the time frame a little bit.

2. Euphoria's Segment: Mention Insight barely escaping from Hypno's grasp, and establish that they have fled the immediate area and are out of earshot.

3. Flashback Sequence - Add in some time for Euphoria to figure out her weakness, establish that she did not know it automatically.

I think that's the sum of all the issues with it, but again, please let me know if anyone has something to add, or if I still need to split the post or anything. I guess I got a bit ahead of myself, I was just really excited to get writing I guess.

Also, as a side note, if people have time and feel up to it, I would really like some thoughts and some more general feed back on the post if possible (beyond continuity issues). I felt really good writing it, but the spending the rest of the day in silence on here, and then doing all this revision work (which I'm fine with doing!) has killed my confidence a little. I understand that I'm being self-indulgent here, and that there are a lot of other posts and things to talk about, but I would really appreciate it. The thoughts and feed-back doesn't have to be positive either, I'd just like to have more of an idea of what people think of it. I also get that it was pretty long, and understand if some people have not had time to read it all yet.

Thanks for this, and for all the help with revisions! I'll try to get those done today or tomorrow, and get a morning post up (including Princess GOOD's debut) tomorrow.

On the Batman front, I was thinking his weakness might be bats (since he fears them in the new movies, at least), which would make his costume choice a similar strategy Firefight Spoilers:

to what Megan does with Firefight

. Only live bats would work, so he wouldn't have to worry about the iconography of his costume affecting his powers, but who would think to use bats against Batman?

Craig has been watching Heroes lately, and I keep thinking of cool ways to adapt the super powers in that show into epics. I especially like Claire's power

Minor Heroes Spoilers

to regenerate from any injury, no matter how deadly, as long as her brain is still capable of healing, even if it has been prevented from healing for some time. They deal with it slightly differently than similar powers have been dealt with here or in the books (kind of a cross between healing and reincarnation), which I think would be kind of cool.

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Comatose, who is Reflection? I thought he was Malevolence, Although i may be wrong. I haven't studied the thread as much as i should have, i just happened to notice that. Edited by Random_illuminati
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I actually found a Tumblr page that defines the Houses better than Rowling ever did. Basically….

 

Gryffindor: Value right and wrong, believe morality is largely instinctive and that acting on that morality is essential 

Ravenclaw: Also value right and wrong, but believe the truth is something you find, often disturb Gryffindors by questioning beliefs Gryffindors believe to be beyond question 

Hufflepuff: Value community and treating all people with respect and kindness in an effort to build a bigger and better community 

Slytherin: Value smaller, more tight-knit communities than Hufflepuffs, and will do anything for the people they consider "theirs" 

 

The page also holds that many of Rowling's Sortings were wrong; Draco, for instance, they think is actually a Hufflepuff primary who models Slytherin values because that is his community, and Ginny is a Slytherin primary who fights for Gryffindor not because it is right, but because it's hers. 

 

By this model, I think Regalia and David would be Gryffindors, while Obliteration would be a Ravenclaw. 

 

Edit: Yes, that is a good point. I want a flying pug now. :ph34r:

 

Double edit: Yes, Illuminati. Yes you are. 

So... either the sorting hat really sucks at his job or the fandom got a bit out of hand. :mellow:

 

Anyway, I'm going to bed now, so longer thoughts from me will have to wait until tomorrow.

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In that Case, I'm definitely Slytherin. And so is Rainbow Dash come to think.

 

 

Alright guys, Twi, Kobold and anyone else that pays a visit and hasn't answered the question yet, how would your characters react to sworld wielding Obliteration standing behind them? (and would Funtimes survive putting glitter on him? :ph34r: )

Corpsemaker: Try to recruit him, then try to kill him, then <REDACTED>

 

Blackwave: Coat himself in water to try to ensure his survival, probably gets incinerated when the water evaporates.

 

Gordon: Tries to make the argument that the Reckoners are good for Obliteration, since they're killing Powerful Epics, then try to strangle him. Then probably get Incinerated.

 

Sightline: Depends. Right now, he'd try to kill him. Towards the end of Portland, He'd try to fistbump him, then team up with him against the rest of Epicanity.

 

Here's another question: If your characters went to Hogwarts, what Houses would they be sorted into and why?

Corpsemaker: Griffindor maybe? But with a highly skewed sense of Morality.

 

Blackwave: Slytherin. He is very Loyal to his crew, and doesn't give a spark about anyone else, unless they're paying him obscene amounts of money.

 

Gordon: Also Griffindor, but in a more traditional way.

 

Sightline: Definitely Griffindor.

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Alright guys, Twi, Kobold and anyone else that pays a visit and hasn't answered the question yet, how would your characters react to sworld wielding Obliteration standing behind them? (and would Funtimes survive putting glitter on him? :ph34r: )

Hmm... 

Frostfire would immediately attempt to either charbroil him, or freeze him, depending on how close he was. Either way, Frosty would be screwed.

 

Azrael would likely engage in a stimulating, (albeit highly disturbing, to anyone who wasn't insane) discussion of religion with him, and it's anybody's guess as to whether they would become mortal enemies, or best buds. :mellow:

 

Mirrorveil... This is a very good question. She's one of the few I can see resolving anything with Obliteration non-violently. At the very least, he seems to not be interested in killing without some sort of reason, so she might actually be capable of talking him down.

 

Here's another question: If your characters went to Hogwarts, what Houses would they be sorted into and why?

(For reference purposes, I'd be a Slytherin for one simple reason. You know how the rules say "you may bring a cat OR a rat OR an owl"? I'd bring a pug. And when McGonagall quoted the rules at me, I'd say "Screw you. Neville has a toad. My pug can beat up his toad. Well, theoretically. Point is, the rules are stupid and my pug stays.")

Frostfire: Perhaps ironically, Frostfire would most likely be sorted into Gryffindor. (Going by the other definition, it's more 50/50 between Gryffindor and Slytherin.) He's very focused on duty and responsibility, and always does what he feels is right. (Although, as an Epic, more often than not this isn't what is actually right.) While he is often abrasive, brash, reckless and angry, he is deeply loyal to those who get close to him.

 

Azrael is a toss-up between Ravenclaw and Slytherin. (Going by that definition in your other post though, he'd definitely be Ravenclaw.) He is obsessed with details and planning, and loyal only to himself. He's driven by what he's determined to be right, and will often put aside his personal inclinations in pursuit of a larger goal.

 

Mirrorveil is a Hufflepuff. No question.  :P Although under that other system she might be considered a Slytherin secondary, that has more to do with her condition than her personality. Her ability to emphasize forces her to see and understand everyone she meets, so she has no real choice but to see them as other people and treat tham as well as she can. (I really need to get back to writing her. That's waiting on the next game-day, though.)

 

(Myself, I'd most likely end up in Ravenclaw either way, although going by the other definition, I'd probably have some Slytherin traits as well.)

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......

I just completely finished reading the Corvallis thread thing Comatose posted, its weird how for some reason i didn't read It until today. :/

I have to say though, It was VERY well written, containing elements from other parts of the story (The swinging part) and adding them all there.

Loved how you made Danny the cheerful ball of happiness the calculating cold epic and Leila the Calculating cold person into the Walking Drug Euphoria, just shows how a trauma can completely re shape your life.

I really don't have any negative critisism to add though, everything seemed all right. :D

And Comatose, don't worry about all the critisism you got from everyone, its just that people have different headcannons, thus they all visualize a scene in a different way. That and i guess us writers tend to get carried away in our own headcannon of the story ;)

(A perfect example of this being my Substance posts)

Also, i cannot hate Corvallis for a long time, after all, this was the thread that got me started with the RPG! (I loved the first Rainmaker scene)

:ph34r:

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Well, judging my characters by these standards...

 

 

 

Lightwards is most definitely a Ravenclaw, as there's no form of community that he admires and he's wholeheartedly devoted to the pseudo-morality he's developed for himself.

 

Sam is , surprisingly enough, a Slytherin, as she has a very strict "us vs them" worldview. While friendly to other vanillas, she doesn't really open up to them easily and doesn't have much desire to form a large and open community.

 

Revolution is a Hufflepuff by anyone's standards, I think. She's hard-working and loyal, thus fitting the House by Rowling's definition, and is also devoted to her community and expanding said community. Note the difference between her and Sam's reactions to Ray; while Sam remained convinced that Ray was an Epic and thus a slontze, Revolution sees even Epics as potential friends and future members of her community.

 

Vondra is a Gryffindor. He sees his sense of duty and responsibility as innate and unquestionable, and clashes with those who question it.

 

Arsenal I could see as a Fallen Gryffindor. He once valued a moral and behavioral code he saw as infallible, but in recent times he holds on to his old ideologies only out of a sense of stubborn pride. There's not really much of anything he truly values any more.

 

Thinking about this, Deathwish's House is the one that surprised me the most. I think he's actually a good candidate for Gryffindor. Now, hear me out; Gryffindor in this system is about believing in an inherent moral code and sticking to it fiercely. Edgar Hawk respected criminal subculture and desperately wanted to be a part of it, while as Deathwish he's shifted that respect to the very-similar Epics. He's defined by his determination to follow the way of life of the people he sees as the best and baddest in his world. Since he has no interest in objectively examining his morality and cares nothing for community, I think he'd be much the same kind of Gryffindor as Peter Pettigrew was.

 

Backtrack's the one who's giving me the most amount of trouble, and not just because he's too pathetic for most of the Houses to take him. :P I think ultimately I'd class him as a Gryffindor, as he strongly believes in a strict system of right and wrong. He doesn't always follow that system, but the twinges of guilt he feels about breaking it coupled with his rare heroic impulses are strong indicators that he does have one. At his best, his priority lies with being a halfway decent person more than community or the search for a better moral code, so I'd have to keep him in Gryffindor.

 

 

 

 

Truth be told, I'm kind of surprised how many of my characters wound up in Gryffindor. :P What about your characters, Twi?

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Backtrack a Gryffindor. I never would've thought I'd agree with that, but you make a good case for it. :mellow: Deathwish, oddly enough, is a bit less surprising in that regard; the Gryffindor adherence to morality is portrayed as an unquestionably positive thing in the books, but really, any kind of morality could be a candidate for a Gryffindor's moral code—even morally bankrupt morality. 

 

Funtimes is a Slytherin primary/Hufflepuff secondary. As Jade Delancey, she was fiercely loyal to Her People (Courtney, most notably, but there were a few others to be expanded upon in her flashbacks). Now her loyalty has definitely been corrupted, but it has still shifted to her vanillas. Her Hufflepuff secondary, however, keeps her from demonstrating the coldness and aloofness many Slytherins are famous for, and in the past it often allowed her to expand her community from her family to a few less-close friends. 

 

Nathan is a Hufflepuff primary/Slytherin secondary. He sees caring for others, however possible, as the highest responsibility. In Newcago, he made many friends simply by treating his fellow servers with kindness and helping them however he could. A Slytherin secondary is characterized by adaptability, often as a survival mechanism. I'd say he demonstrates this, as when Funtimes decided to pretend he was an Epic, or the way he'd learn quickly how to keep the Newcago Epics happy. 

 

Koschei, oddly enough, was a Gryffindor primary/Slytherin secondary. He had that adaptability, but he also adhered to his own inner morality ("I am a god and you can either agree or die"). It's not a good morality, but it's his, and convincing him he's wrong would take quite the effort. And, as with most Gryffindor primaries, being proven wrong about his moral code would destroy him. 

 

Remington is also a Gryffindor primary, though I'm torn between Gryffindor and Slytherin for his secondary. He's loyal to those he loves, but he also sees right and wrong as paramount. What the Epics are doing is wrong, and they must be stopped wherever possible. That is a very Gryffindor attitude, but he also has the aloofness of a Petrifed Slytherin—a Slytherin who has lost faith in Their People or who has had Their People taken from them and has decided to simply go it alone. 

 

Quota….I'm not sure on. I think he actually resembles a Hufflepuff primary/Gryffindor secondary. One trait of a Hufflepuff is that people deserve to be treated with respect….however, if a person is suddenly ​not a person….well, that's Quota for you. He doesn't really see others as people, unless they're just as depraved as he is. That is his moral code and he sticks to it. 

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Hum....now i wish i had built Substance as well as you guys did with your characters...

I never focused on personality but instead i did in cool bouncy powers, as well as a backstory im too lazy to finish :(

Any advice from oh, you makers of count less epics so that i can build him better? (Rewrite perhaps)

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Hum....now i wish i had built Substance as well as you guys did with your characters...

I never focused on personality but instead i did in cool bouncy powers, as well as a backstory im too lazy to finish :(

Any advice from oh, you makers of count less epics so that i can build him better? (Rewrite perhaps)

Most of my Sorting was done after I'd already been using my characters for a while. :P I'd advise reading some of the Chats and figuring out which traits Substance embodies the most, and accentuate and explore those in future posts.

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It seems worth a shot, i guess.

Also, if i may ask a question like you guys have been this whole while:

How would your characters react (What would happen to them) if they suddenly lost all their powers whilst in the middle of a crowd of vanillas?

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It seems worth a shot, i guess.

Also, if i may ask a question like you guys have been this whole while:

How would your characters react (What would happen to them) if they suddenly lost all their powers whilst in the middle of a crowd of vanillas?

 

 

For Lightwards, it depends on whether he loses the ability to control Warriors he's already killed. If so, then they'd immediately turn on him and kill him before he has any chance at all to react. Especially the dinosaurs like Wes. :mellow:

 

Aldo would bluff his way out of the crowd, and while always frustrated and bitter about his loss, would eventually take up a position as an entertainer in the court of some powerful Epic. He has experience not being murdered by High Epics, so he'd probably make a pretty good living for himself.

 

Deathwish would curse very loudly and obscenely while trying to take off from the ground. He'd be sullen and refuse to leave his quarters for a couple of days, in which he'd have a very pronounced mid-life crisis as he tried to figure out what he was without his powers. Eventually, I think he'd sneak away and join Quicksilver's gang hoping for a high position, giving away as many town secrets as he could in the hope of currying favor. If he stayed in the criminal underworld long enough and heard rumors about Regalia's connection to Calamity, he might start the long and arduous journey across the country hoping to reach Babilar and get his powers back. It would actually make for a pretty decent fanfiction, come to think of it. :ph34r:

 

Backtrack would cry, but ultimately his lot in life wouldn't change much. He'd get a job washing dishes for some Epic, with the rationale that Epics usually want nothing to do with dishwashers and would leave him alone. :P

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Shame, i really saw Backtrack as a possible Glasses Supermodel...:mellow:

Fan fic? That is possible movie material!

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Shame, i really saw Backtrack as a possible Glasses Supermodel... :mellow:

 

Maybe, if he can survive recommending a pair of bright purple shades to Steelheart. Which, again, would make for a pretty entertaining fanfiction. :P

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Maybe, if he can survive recommending a pair of bright purple shades to Steelheart. Which, again, would make for a pretty entertaining fanfiction. :P

Which, incidentally, would help Steelheart's cause more than it hurt, since seeing a fearsome dictator in whimsical sunglasses would make his subjects very nervous. :P

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Well, I regretted having to do this, but I have to withdraw from the RP. It's not like I've done anything anyway, but I still felt that I should let you guys know. RL stuff is getting crazy right now, and I don't really have the passion for this anymore. Sorry.

Ozymandias: Feel free to have him killed by Arsenal or something. Whoever wants to kill him, just PM me and we can work out a battle or something.

Nightshade and Midnight Tears: I'll PM Aonar with the weaknesses and other relevant info and he can go from there.

Chef: (my favorite character :P) Totally irrelevant to the story. Shouldn't matter a bit.

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Well, I regretted having to do this, but I have to withdraw from the RP. It's not like I've done anything anyway, but I still felt that I should let you guys know. RL stuff is getting crazy right now, and I don't really have the passion for this anymore. Sorry.

Ozymandias: Feel free to have him killed by Arsenal or something. Whoever wants to kill him, just PM me and we can work out a battle or something.

Nightshade and Midnight Tears: I'll PM Aonar with the weaknesses and other relevant info and he can go from there.

Chef: (my favorite character :P) Totally irrelevant to the story. Shouldn't matter a bit.

We'll miss you! :( Hope RL gets a bit less hectic here soon, so it won't be as stressful for you.

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And so the whole Role playing Section mourns as yet another player leaves, leaving the few they were to Begin with to fend off for themselves.:(

Edited by Random_illuminati
Posted

Bah. I think you guys can handle it just fine without my needless interruptions. I will still follow the story and would be happy to come in as a guest writer for Nighthound's death. :P

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Although sad, worn out with tears in their eyes, the 17th sharders accepted what was to come, they even laughed at the mention of NightHound's death, but It was only for a while, for they knew that the time to leave was approaching.

"i think you guys can handle It just fine without my needless interruptions, i will still follow the story and would be happy to come in as a guess writer for NightHound's death"

Was what he, Kipper (If that was really his name) said before parting into the unknown. The red and purple sky above remained ever so changing as his figure could no longer be seen. Then It started to darken. It started to rapidly gain shade as he dissapeared in the horizon.

"Do you think he will be fine?" Kobold asked.

"No, its his duty to keep going, to become the best, to become-"

"The greatest Pokemon Master there ever was." They all said at the same time as the blackness of the night filled up the sky.

And...thats what would had happened if this was an anime. :mellow:

Woah, now i can't stop imagining what this thread would be like if It was an anime...

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Posted

Sad to see you go, Kipper.

My Epics in Harry Potter houses?

Deathskull: she would be a Slytherin. She values her own community of servants and will fiercely protect them.

Hellfire: really not sure....

Iconoclast: I think maybe a Gryffindor. He has a strict sense of right and wrong and is insanely brave and reckless even considering his regeneration.

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