Kobold King he/him Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 ...I was kind of hoping for one I can fulfill on my own, so I'm afraid the AMA is the best we got. Oh. Well in that case I wish for a description of how each of your characters would react to turning around and seeing Obliteration standing behind them with a sword in hand.
Comatose he/him Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 The command working even a little bit would still be enough to doom him, given that in that window Hypno could just command him again, which would work better this time and then he'd just be done for. I also can't find the exact passage claiming Epics don't automatically knowing their weakness but I remmber that the concept didn't come up when Conflux claimed he doesn't know what his weakness is, which would be directly contradicted by this and as such really should have been mentioned in context, especially with it being at the beginning of the book, meaning it's in the refresher part of the book. As for Insight escaping after he killed the Iron Ogress, one big problem there (appart the sluggishness of mind you just implied which should would probably cause him to hesistate) namely that the command would come after he dropped the lily, giving Hypno enough time to speak the command five times over easily. But If the command was weakened (1) By Insight being an Epic, and (2) The effect being dampened by Insight's lack of connection to the physical plane, as soon as he was immaterial he could speed up time for himself and get away before the second command was given. I suppose Hypno could have commanded him in the time in between when he dropped the flower and killed Iron Ogress, but if he was speeding up time for himself, it seems doubtful that he would have heard or understood the command at all, since Hypno would have been moving so much slower, relative to Insight. Again, I'm unclear if commands merely need to be heard, if they need to be understood, or what other requirements there are. Again, I'm fine with editing the post to be more accurate, but with Insight's powers, I don't think he would have a hard time escaping. But Megan could have realized all that when she discovered what fire did to her powers. She might not have known that fire was her weakness right away, but when she discovered that it caused her illusions to vanish, she could have come to the conclusion that she wouldn't reincarnate if she died in a fire. I got the impression that an Epic discovering their weakness is like that moment when the Eleventh Doctor looks behind his door in The God Complex: He didn't know what would be behind it, but when he looked, all he could say was "Of course. Who else would it be?" And in Steelheart, I think there's a passage about Steelheart testing various things to figure out exactly what his weakness was. I don't have the book with me, so if someone could find it (or prove me wrong) that'd be awesome, but he wouldn't need to discover his weakness through trial and error if he automatically knew it. I guess I was wrong about the weakness thing then (I also just found the Conflux scene - it's on page 45-46 in chapter 7 of the hardcover). I think I can edit it to have her figuring out her weakness, and having an "of course" moment without too much trouble. That's exactly the quote I was searching for, thank you Kobold. As a reward you may speak a wish. Why not wishing for Nighthound's death?
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Oh. Well in that case I wish for a description of how each of your characters would react to turning around and seeing Obliteration standing behind them with a sword in hand. Alright, I'll write that up, although I'll probably need until tomorrow. Now I need to go and figure out some kind of interaction between Obliteration's danger sense and what happens when mary dies. But If the command was weakened (1) By Insight being an Epic, and (2) The effect being dampened by Insight's lack of connection to the physical plane, as soon as he was immaterial he could speed up time for himself and get away before the second command was given. Except that if the command would work on him even a little bit he wouldn't be able to speed up time, because that is exactly what the command would keep him from doing.
RandomRevival he/him Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Um...aren't epics supposed to like, dream their fears/weaknesses? Wouldn't a fracking recurrent dream kinda give you a hint of your weakness?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Um...aren't epics supposed to like, dream their fears/weaknesses? Wouldn't a fracking recurrent dream kinda give you a hint of your weakness? They dream about the traumas that gave them their weaknesses. Nightmares are a somewhat common side effect of trauma, even without Calamity's influence, so many Epics probably just hate going to sleep because they know there's a good chance they'll dream about things they'd rather forget. For them, I'd imagine it's less "Gee, I'll bet this thing I'm dreaming about is my weakness" and more "ARRRRRRGHHHHH MY SUBCONSCIOUS HATES ME I'M GOING TO GO DESTROY A NICE HOUSE IN THE SUBURBS TO TRY AND FORGET THAT DREAM." Edit: I nearly typed "Clamity" instead of "Calamity." And here I thought Calamity was a pug. Edited July 4, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles 3
Kobold King he/him Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Edit: I nearly typed "Clamity" instead of "Calamity." And here I thought Calamity was a pug. Well, it does make Epics more shellfish. 3
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 Well, it does make Epics more shellfish. They'd resist the corruption, but most of them don't have the mussel. 2
Kobold King he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 They'd resist the corruption, but most of them don't have the mussel. Fine, I give up. I've been trying for hours to come up with another shellfish pun, but none come to mind. I mean, scallop, barnacle, bivalve, oyster? Who names these things? I need better material, darn it. Give me fish puns any ray. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 5, 2015 Author Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Fine, I give up. I've been trying for hours to come up with another shellfish pun, but none come to mind. I mean, scallop, barnacle, bivalve, oyster? Who names these things? I need better material, darn it. Give me fish puns any ray. You don't want to talk about how Curveball couldn't hit the broad side of a barnacle? Or how Regalia's claims to be fighting the corruption were abalone? Edited July 5, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles 2
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 On the Hypno matter I think the clincher would be do commands work if they're recorded and played through headphones or something similar? Because I'd see Insights ability to perceive the real world as only really being a copy of the information, to actually see the real world even in black and white the light needs to be absorbed by his pupils, which means his pupils at the very least would be visible in the real world. So the logical conclusion is that its a replica of the light from the real world, and also a replica of sound which may or may not help but I'm just trying to logic my way through the powers involved. 1
Mailliw73 he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Okay, so I think that Insight's moving quickly, so Hypno wouldn't be prepared when the flower dropped and then when the sticks came, he might yell out a "Stop!" But in the time it'd take to process and say it, Insight would already be transitioning to Immateriality. So maybe he'd pause for a second or just slow down a bit, but once he's completely immaterial, Hypno's powers would have a very hard time working on him. The Epicness coupled with the the border of Immateriality and his current three or four Commands wouldn't be enough to affect Insight. He'd have to be much closer, louder and have no other Commands if Insight is in Immateriality. Voidus, I think that what I decided about recordings in a PM was that they could be strung together of words from separate Commands, but there is Intent in them. The Intent is focused on certain individuals. So if Billy were to hear a recording of Hypno telling Bob to "run off a cliff", he'd just hear a recording. But if Billy heard a mashup recording of Hypno saying to Billy, at some point in the past to "run" "off" "a" and "cliff", it would work. But that second recording wouldn't work on Bob. Does that make sense?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 5, 2015 Author Posted July 5, 2015 If losing his parents was his core trauma, what would Batman look like as an Epic? 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 They dream about the traumas that gave them their weaknesses. Nightmares are a somewhat common side effect of trauma, even without Calamity's influence, so many Epics probably just hate going to sleep because they know there's a good chance they'll dream about things they'd rather forget. For them, I'd imagine it's less "Gee, I'll bet this thing I'm dreaming about is my weakness" and more "ARRRRRRGHHHHH MY SUBCONSCIOUS HATES ME I'M GOING TO GO DESTROY A NICE HOUSE IN THE SUBURBS TO TRY AND FORGET THAT DREAM." Edit: I nearly typed "Clamity" instead of "Calamity." And here I thought Calamity was a pug. Then there's also how Epics seem to think that the whole connection betwwen dreams, trauma and weakness isn't something ordinary but just a coincidence. On the Hypno matter I think the clincher would be do commands work if they're recorded and played through headphones or something similar? Because I'd see Insights ability to perceive the real world as only really being a copy of the information, to actually see the real world even in black and white the light needs to be absorbed by his pupils, which means his pupils at the very least would be visible in the real world. So the logical conclusion is that its a replica of the light from the real world, and also a replica of sound which may or may not help but I'm just trying to logic my way through the powers involved. ...This doesn't really have to do anything with anything but the visible eyes problem only really exsists for light-illusionists that want to cloak themselves, otherwise all forms on invisibility would have that problem, wouldn't they? If losing his parents was his core trauma, what would Batman look like as an Epic? Well, Batman doesn't have superpowers, at least officially. But if he had them, how about guns being his weakness, he does have that whole no-guns deal going on after his trauma afterall. 1
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Batman sort of does have superpowers. Powers like Hawkeye. Extreme skill. To me, that counts as superpowers.
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Batman has the power of being rich, does that count? 2
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Then Iron Man is off the charts. 1
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 I don't know if we want to open up the batman vs. Iron Man can of worms here...But clearly Iron Man wins. 1
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Yep. Just blast Batman with rockets, and repulsers. All Batman can do is jump off buildings. My friends and me call him the sucicidal billionaire.
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 But wait, he does have the bat voice, that's a super power right? The ability to have perpetual laryngitis? 1
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Maybe. It really depends if he has eaten McDonalds or not.
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Batman has four super powers. Namely, 1)Money and a company that allows him to build impossible tech. 2)Time distortion in his backstory allowing him to become a master in way to many things. 3)Popularity, which makes him immune to death and allows superhuman feats such as beatng everyone, even if it doesn't make sense. 4)I will let this speak for itself. Edit: Oh. Well in that case I wish for a description of how each of your characters would react to turning around and seeing Obliteration standing behind them with a sword in hand. Interestingly enough no one really cares about the sword in his hand, because Obliteration alone is already dangerous enough. Voidgaze: At first doesn’t realize what Obliteration being there means, greats him potentially offers him a waffle or whatever kind of food she may have with her. Then Obliteration would probably say some bible inspired threats that go over her head and attack her with the sword, which wouldn’t do anything to harm her but get the seriousness of the situation across to her and commence the epic fight scene. Lucentia: Moan about how the city just got even worse and bitch at Obliteration about how he’s an insane wasteful animal… she isn’t exactly successful with it but sadly Obliteration can’t just obliterate her either. Ray: Freak out, point at Nighthound, tell him how much of a Slontze he is and throw in whatever bible reference she can remember on the top of her head and hope she can at least watch him die first. Baxter: Realizes how sparking screwed thay all are and try to distract him long enough with talking for people to just evacuate the area. Shiny Sparkle: Teleports away, possibly taking whatever fling she has at the moment with her, never to be seen anywhere near the location Obliteration showed up ever again. Vapor Snake: Grab his radio to give out a warning, meanwhile contemplate if Obliteration is enough of a Godzilla Threshold to risk using his powers. Decides to screw it and just tackles Obliteration to trigger his teleportation and get him somewhere else. Deathgale: Try to offer a deal to Obliteration or otherwise reason with him, which I’m pretty sure he’ll fail at. Bloody Mary: No reaction in particular actually, so depending on her mood she could go between offering him tea or attacking him. The Metal: Force Obliteration to teleport away, shrug his shoulders and continue doing whatever he was doing before, repeat as often as necessary. Nighthound doesn’t get to react, he just gets obliterated and then Nighthound died. Edited July 5, 2015 by Edgedancer 6
Blackhoof Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) I'll get Iconoclast's dream and awakening sequence up once this end of day thing is all sorted out Does anyone mind if he is the first post of the day? Would anyone like to go first? The placement of his post isn't important Oh. Well in that case I wish for a description of how each of your characters would react to turning around and seeing Obliteration standing behind them with a sword in hand. Like Edgedancer, I can tell you Hellfire: Would have no idea who he is and mutter about crazy Americans coming at him with swords. Deathskull: Would metalbend the sword away and sneer until he melts her armour around her and she receives an ironic demise Iconoclast: Would smile evilly and try to attack him until he gets incinerated. Ideally, he would regenerate a wiser and more cautious villain, but likely not I guess I was wrong about the weakness thing then (I also just found the Conflux scene - it's on page 45-46 in chapter 7 of the hardcover). I think I can edit it to have her figuring out her weakness, and having an "of course" moment without too much trouble. yeah, once she realises her powers don't work on him it shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Um...aren't epics supposed to like, dream their fears/weaknesses?Wouldn't a fracking recurrent dream kinda give you a hint of your weakness? yes, but in addition to what Twilight said, the actual weakness is often a symbol connected to the trauma in some way. For instance, Newton's weakness is compliments, but her nightmares would not have consisted solely of people complimenting her. Steelheart's was people who don't fear him, but he wouldn't have just dreamt of a guy being casually unafraid- he would have relived the trauma or incident that caused him to be scared of not being feared (imo). So the connection is there, and it is one that many Epics would be able to make, but not all. Edited July 5, 2015 by Blackhoof 1
Voidus Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 A day in the life of Metronome: Greetings reader, I am an Epic, some of you may already know me, some may have only heard my name and trembled but I am the great and powerful Metronome! And this is the story of my day.I woke up usually enough, precisely 7 minutes before 6 AM and spent 12.3 seconds getting out of bed and a further 2 minutes 34 seconds getting dressed for the day, my hair was then neatly combed in a record 11 seconds and I made my way out of my room to the adjoining room. The co-ruler of Salem resides in this room, Soulcaster the scourge of Salem, I generally leave most of the official decision making in the city to him so that I can enjoy my priveleged life as the other ruler of this city. As usual I wake Soulcaster up 13 seconds before 6 to allow him to get out of bed before I assist him in dressing for the day, other Epics might call it demeaning work but that's just because they have no confidence in their own status, as a friend and fellow ruler I'm always happy to help Soulcaster with the occasional small task, I'm sure he'd do the same for me but he always knows how efficient and capable I am so there's never any need.Leaving Soulcasters chambers as his breakfast is delivered by one of the house maids I set about my duties for the day, leaving Soulcaster to the mundane task of watching the Epics fight eachother I set about my calming routine of checking all of the mansions faucets are running correctly, the 2nd bathroom faucet is filling slowly today, taking 2.3 seconds longer than usual to fill a bucket. It takes me 2 minutes to find one of our servants assigned to maintenance and after I introduce myself to him (Amazing that some of my own servants still don't know of my name and great power) it takes me another 5 minutes to calm him down from what I can only assume was a severe fit of terror, the poor man was crying as his mouth was agape in hearing of the great strength of my ability as an Epic, muffled sounds that were almost more like bursts of laughter than sobs emerged and I could only guess that the poor man had gone insane.Telling him to take 3 hours and 45 minutes to rest after fixing the faucet (A time I'd found to produce maximum restfulness) I briefly toured the many clocks Soulcaster and I owned, tuning each one until they were all perfectly in sync produced a sense of rightness within me. The house maids had all gathered to watch as they often did, exchanging whispers of my great prowess behind their hands as they beheld me in all of my grace and strength.This done I proceeded to my usual luncheon appointment, taking some time out of my day to comfort poor Soulcaster as he was stuck with his drudgery, though he always put on a smile to try to pretend he enjoyed his work. Still he had to know that his powers were not great enough to handle the real responsibility of ruling the city as I did, it was best he stick to the arena and signing off on all the orders and leave the important clock-setting to me.We finished our lunch at 2:34 and I left Soulcaster to continue his work, I walked proudly down the street, watching people stop and point in awe as they recognized me. Walking through the city I ensured that all the city patrols were on time, both Epics and human troops of guards were timed to perfection, an accuracy I'd insisted on, though many of the poor Epics were barely powerful enough to make it within 5 minutes of their correct time slots. When I criticised them these Epics and sometimes even regular humans made a show of bravery, trying to pretend that they would actually stand up to me, their great leader and push me to the ground for telling them not to slack off. Seeing the sadness in their eyes and knowing they could never match my power I usually leave them unpunished. It must be so sad to live life in such weakness.Returning to my room I take a simple dinner of bread with a slice of beef, fetched myself from the kitchen since the maids are also horrendously late in bringing my meals if I let them, I let them go unpunished for the same reason I let the guards go, for it makes me sad to rub their faces in their powerlessness. But still, that one time when it went over 5 days late was a bit severe.At 9:29 precisely I lay my head on my pillow, ready to rest for another 8 hours 23 minutes until my next day begins.I am Metronome, ruler of Salem and now at 9:34 I am dreaming about owning a lamb. 8
Blackhoof Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 hahahaha XD these Metronome jokes are.... timeless 2
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Tick, Tock... Time is running out for Metronome puns!
Recommended Posts