TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 I don't think I'm allowed to hide it. If you could, that would be great. I'll do that. Do you have it saved somewhere?
Glamdring804 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) I'll do that. Do you have it saved somewhere? Yes I do. I'll also read up on what's going on in the city currently. Edited May 28, 2015 by Glamdring804
18th Shard he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Insight would not have minions per-se. But he does want Corvallis brought down. My thought is that he would notice Phoenix's attempt to help Converter, and then free Converter tomorrow, and bring them together. Then, he'd let them do their own thing, trusting they would wreak the havoc he wants. I like the team idea two, or even with Coverter and Phoenix working separately. At the very least it will give those characters more people to RP with. People have already commented on length about this, but Corvallis does have power, with no shortages. Right now (according to Wikipedia) 21% of Corvallis's power is green. With Cornucopia and Rainmaker's abilities, I see no reason why they couldn't bump that up to 100%, with a combination of wind and sun manipulation, and planting full power cells to create more and power generators if the power fails for any reason. There's an existing powerplant here, right near the river. Rainmaker would have other smaller power generating areas (Specifically for wind) elsewhere in the fields around the city, but for convenience let's say this is the main hub for conventional (no reason Cornucopia can't plant fossil fuels, unless she has a moral objection) and solar power. As for Converter, my intention was not to move her, and to leave her out in the field. With her ability to redirect momentum and pretty much fry or freeze anyone who gets close to her, Rainmaker would be very worried about moving her until they can find a way to subdue or overcome her powers. My thought was that the chains they are using could be anchored to the ground, and Rainmaker's people could construct a shade shelter to keep the sun out. Once that's done, Rainmaker would shroud Converter's area in clouds to block even more sunlight out, lower the temperature as low as possible (as she is already doing), and then would place winds blowing outward in a perimeter all around the prison, preventing anyone from getting close. She'd also place guards to watch that perimeter of course. IcyHot and Resistor would be natural choices, but I'm sure she'd trust Buttercup to make that staffing decision. As for the rescue, I'm thinking Insight tracks down Phoenix, leads him back to the field, and then phases Converter out of her chains, setting them free, and then watches what they do from there. My hope is that Phoenix and Converter can keep a low profile for a bit, and avoid attacking Rainmaker directly for a while, choosing instead to make attacks and destroy bits and pieces of the city and then vanish. Perhaps, once Converter is freed, and if she links up with both Phoenix and Iconoclast, they could stock up on supplies and ghouls and then eventually attack the power plant, where Converter could maximize her power. Then, they could hole up there in a base, forcing Rainmaker to lay siege. Just some ideas. I think I got to all the questions. I haven't read the Dalles thread yet, but I'm assuming Brandon is just hanging out trying not to be noticed as per usual. Sounds good. Phoenix would be fine with the above plan. Edited May 28, 2015 by 18th Shard
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 Yes I do. I'll also read up on what's going on in the city currently. And hidden. Just go ahead and post your Epic bio in this thread.
Comatose he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I can also merge your post into the Dalles, once you feel you are ready. I totally didn't realize that Oregon University was already taken as a place! I'll need to move it! I thought it was abandoned. Parts of it could still be abandoned, if Chase wants a hide-out.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Does he listen to Death Grips? (A rap group, mildly hardcore, good chunk of profanity, don't look up if children are around) Voidus, I can make an Epic if necessary to help get the thread going. My biggest worry for Epic!Fight Club is that the influx of new players just suddenly stops. Me too. Especially just one-shot fight ones. I'm sure we'll have enough fighting to keep it going. But, doesn't Frequency have a suit and cane?That he does.
Blackhoof Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I imagine the dream worlds would be much like our own, but perhaps with a surreal, ephemereal quality. So say, battle would be "staged" in cities and areas across the country and world, just devoid of people.
Glamdring804 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Here is my character introduction. Well, so much for that, Blinks thought, staring at the smoking crater that, until recently, had been the Bosie capitol building. It had been abandoned when the government collapsed, and eventually reclaimed by people who had lost their previous homes. There were a good 50 people in it when it was destroyed. Including Blink's finance. Well Julia, are you happy now? Blinks asked his absent sister. She had warned him before she had left for New Babylon, warned him that nothing good could come out of the relationship. She told him that he was going to get his heart broken. Well, she was right. Blinks clenched his fist. He needed something to vent his anger. Luckily enough, impudent young Epic who had destroyed the building had decided to stay around and watch the aftermath. Now he lay on the ground a few feet away, hands bound behind his back, tape covering his mouth, blood smeared on the side of his face. He was a mildly powerful epic, with the ability to make organic substances spontaneously explode. Unfortunately for him, for his power to work, he had speak. Disabling him had been as simple as gagging him. Without his voice, he was powerless. Blinks turned to the kid, who was squirming in his bonds. "You know something, slontze," Blinks growled, "There were a lot of people in the building. I was gonna marry one of them, and now, bits of her are scattered across three city blocks. That makes me really angry." The kid squirmed, eyes bugging with fear. He tried to say something, but all that came out was "Mmmmmuummmmph." "Huh. Is that all you have to say for yourself? Too bad." Blinks raised his hand and snapped his fingers. A flash of light flared from the kid's forehead. When it faded, the head was missing, only the singed stump of a his neck remaining. Blinks stood up. Several people watched from nearby streets. Blinks sneered. They had to right to look at him like that. They didn't deserve gawk at him, not when his soulmate had just been murdered. He raised his arm, ready to-- No! he shouted to himself, Would she want you to kill them? Blinks growled and turned back to the crater. There was nothing here for him anymore. It was time to move on. Oregon, he thought, Oregon sounds nice. He snapped his fingers, and vanished in a flash of light. Some more details can be found here. Edited May 28, 2015 by Glamdring804
Comatose he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I like the character over all, but you should probably think carefully about how his fiance survived his rending (unless they did not get engaged until after?) Also (someone please correct me if I am wrong about this), don't you have to gift all of your power and not use it to avoid corruption? I'm pretty sure using two powers, even while gifting one, would still start to corrupt you. Firefight Spoiler: Given Prof's transformation right after using a huge feat of power, that Regalia especially intended to corrupt him with... ... we know that large expenditures of power corrupt a person more quickly, meaning its likely that lesser uses of power corrupt less. Based on this, I'd say that gifting a small amount of power to another, while still using two much more powerful abilities, would not do much to prevent corruption, and he'd likely still need to avoid using his powers too often to avoid corruption. I think he'd fit in well with the Dalles, since the majority of epics there are trying (and failing) to avoid corruption.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 I like the character over all, but you should probably think carefully about how his fiance survived his rending (unless they did not get engaged until after?) Also (someone please correct me if I am wrong about this), don't you have to gift all of your power and not use it to avoid corruption? I'm pretty sure using two powers, even while gifting one, would still start to corrupt you. Firefight Spoiler: Given Prof's transformation right after using a huge feat of power, that Regalia especially intended to corrupt him with... ... we know that large expenditures of power corrupt a person more quickly, meaning its likely that lesser uses of power corrupt less. Based on this, I'd say that gifting a small amount of power to another, while still using two much more powerful abilities, would not do much to prevent corruption, and he'd likely still need to avoid using his powers too often to avoid corruption. I think he'd fit in well with the Dalles, since the majority of epics there are trying (and failing) to avoid corruption. Gifting is more of a band-aid solution so far as corruption is concerned. Since Prof gave large amounts of his power away, he managed to stave it off for quite a while, but even as early as "Mitosis," it was starting to take hold, and in the second book, he's already sliding toward complete corruption before Regalia tricks him. So it could work somewhat, but it definitely wouldn't be a perfect solution.
Kobold King he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Gifting is more of a band-aid solution so far as corruption is concerned. Since Prof gave large amounts of his power away, he managed to stave it off for quite a while, but even as early as "Mitosis," it was starting to take hold, and in the second book, he's already sliding toward complete corruption before Regalia tricks him. So it could work somewhat, but it definitely wouldn't be a perfect solution. There's also a line somewhere that says that when he gifts too much power to another person, that person starts to feel the corruption. So gifting is nowhere near as good a solution as facing your fears and overcoming the corruption altogether.
Glamdring804 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Gifting is more of a band-aid solution so far as corruption is concerned. Since Prof gave large amounts of his power away, he managed to stave it off for quite a while, but even as early as "Mitosis," it was starting to take hold, and in the second book, he's already sliding toward complete corruption before Regalia tricks him. So it could work somewhat, but it definitely wouldn't be a perfect solution. No, it's not. He's kinda unstable. Yes, he got engaged after his rending. She helped him stop using his powers as often, and for a while. He was better. Now that she is dead, he will slowly start falling appart, even with the minor gifting. It doesn't help that he now has no one to gift to.Edit: Also, Prof gave David his regen abilities, without the Tensor abilities. Edited May 28, 2015 by Glamdring804
18th Shard he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Sheer willpower should work for a very short time; Prof said his little super hero gang lasted a little while, so depending on how long since Blink's rending, this shouldn't be a problem in this scene. When would Insight grab Phoenix, and when would he leave Converter/Phoenix after Converter is freed? Using Insight to drop them off outside most of the guards' range would solve the battle starting again tendency. Also, I will be absent for the last week of June and most of July, so don't expect me to be able to post then.
Comatose he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 No, it's not. He's kinda unstable. Yes, he got engaged after his rending. She helped him stop using his powers as often, and for a while. He was better. Now that she is dead, he will slowly start falling appart, even with the minor gifting. It doesn't help that he now has no one to gift to. Edit: Also, Prof gave David his regen abilities, without the Tensor abilities. I know multiple abilities can be gifted selectively. What I was trying to say is that gifting only one and using the others doesn't do as much to decrease corruption. With prof, in that one scene, he did give David a LOT of healing, but it still wasn't enough to prevent his corruption by using his force-fields. Gifting a minor ability alone shouldn't be enough to compensate for the use of the other abilities Slowly falling apart (or quickly is some cases) is a lot what Oregon is about, so he should fit right in . 1
Glamdring804 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I know multiple abilities can be gifted selectively. What I was trying to say is that gifting only one and using the others doesn't do as much to decrease corruption. With prof, in that one scene, he did give David a LOT of healing, but it still wasn't enough to prevent his corruption by using his force-fields. Gifting a minor ability alone shouldn't be enough to compensate for the use of the other abilities Slowly falling apart (or quickly is some cases) is a lot what Oregon is about, so he should fit right in . Yeah, I get it, thanks. I don't intend it to have much of an effect. It's one of those things that keeps him just from crossing over the edge, sometimes, but ultimately, he'll cross the line no matter what. 1
Blackhoof Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) I like the character over all, but you should probably think carefully about how his fiance survived his rending (unless they did not get engaged until after?) Also (someone please correct me if I am wrong about this), don't you have to gift all of your power and not use it to avoid corruption? I'm pretty sure using two powers, even while gifting one, would still start to corrupt you. Firefight Spoiler: Given Prof's transformation right after using a huge feat of power, that Regalia especially intended to corrupt him with... ... we know that large expenditures of power corrupt a person more quickly, meaning its likely that lesser uses of power corrupt less. Based on this, I'd say that gifting a small amount of power to another, while still using two much more powerful abilities, would not do much to prevent corruption, and he'd likely still need to avoid using his powers too often to avoid corruption. I think he'd fit in well with the Dalles, since the majority of epics there are trying (and failing) to avoid corruption. the only issue I really have with this is that I'm not sure gifting works that way mechanically- either you are a gifter and can gift all your powers, or just one or more in different amounts, or you are not a gifter. Its binary. Either you are an elephant, or you are a lion. You can't be a bit of both. Gifting is more of a band-aid solution so far as corruption is concerned. Since Prof gave large amounts of his power away, he managed to stave it off for quite a while, but even as early as "Mitosis," it was starting to take hold, and in the second book, he's already sliding toward complete corruption before Regalia tricks him. So it could work somewhat, but it definitely wouldn't be a perfect solution. I don't necessarily agree with that, Twi. Prof managed to hold off for somewhere between 6-10 years, just from gifting and avoiding using his powers himself. It only started unravelling once David came into the picture and convinced the Reckoners to become more active- unknowingly forcing Prof into situations where he felt he had no choice but to use his powers. Without David, there is no fight with Steelheart, there is no going to Babilar, there is none of it. Prof would have been fine. Heck, he probably wouldn't have gone to Regalia at all. Its too much of a coincidence for the events of the books to coincidentally coincide with him already starting to lose his grip and succumb to the addiction. Sheer willpower should work for a very short time; Prof said his little super hero gang lasted a little while, so depending on how long since Blink's rending, this shouldn't be a problem in this scene. When would Insight grab Phoenix, and when would he leave Converter/Phoenix after Converter is freed? Using Insight to drop them off outside most of the guards' range would solve the battle starting again tendency. Also, I will be absent for the last week of June and most of July, so don't expect me to be able to post then. would you mind if one/some of us took your characters while you are away? obviously we wouldn't kill them or do anything outrageous, but we should work something out so the action doesn't completely pause over that time Edited May 28, 2015 by Blackhoof
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 I don't necessarily agree with that, Twi. Prof managed to hold off for somewhere between 6-10 years, just from gifting and avoiding using his powers himself. It only started unravelling once David came into the picture and convinced the Reckoners to become more active- unknowingly forcing Prof into situations where he felt he had no choice but to use his powers. Without David, there is no fight with Steelheart, there is no going to Babilar, there is none of it. Prof would have been fine. Heck, he probably wouldn't have gone to Regalia at all. Its too much of a coincidence for the events of the books to coincidentally coincide with him already starting to lose his grip and succumb to the addiction. There's no way for us to know for sure until we read Calamity, which I presume will tie up the loose ends in Prof's backstory, but I don't think it's coincidence so much as natural consequence. Yes, Prof held off for a long time, and yes, it was due to his gifting. But it's also established that he gave large amounts of his power away on a daily basis. In the first book, we see David being encouraged to practice with the tensors, which is treated as an everyday thing by the other Reckoners. Yet early on, when David first pitches his idea to kill Steelheart, he mentions a look of intense hatred on Prof's face. This is before Prof started using the powers himself. Again in "Mitosis," we see Prof at the very end, visiting David in the hospital. He mentions gifting a large amount of his healing abilities, and yet David still notices "something...darker" flash across his face at the mention of Babilar. While this could certainly be taken as an after effect of his fight with Steelheart, it also makes sense that it's the Epic corruption rearing its ugly head. As far as Babilar goes, who's to say he would have stayed away? Regalia lured him there, and I think she would've done it whether Steelheart was dead or not. The chaos in Newcago merely presented an attractive opportunity; her dislike of Prof was strong enough that she would have done it, David or no David. Like I said, we won't know for sure until we read the next book, but I tend to think the corruption is pretty persistent with gifters too. Conflux was only good because he faced his fear.
Voidus Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 But... if you can only be a true gentleman if you have a watch set by Metronome... what about Earl Greyback? Soulcaster sent him one as a gesture of goodwill?
Edgedancer he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I like the character over all, but you should probably think carefully about how his fiance survived his rending (unless they did not get engaged until after?) Also (someone please correct me if I am wrong about this), don't you have to gift all of your power and not use it to avoid corruption? I'm pretty sure using two powers, even while gifting one, would still start to corrupt you. Firefight Spoiler: Given Prof's transformation right after using a huge feat of power, that Regalia especially intended to corrupt him with... ... we know that large expenditures of power corrupt a person more quickly, meaning its likely that lesser uses of power corrupt less. Based on this, I'd say that gifting a small amount of power to another, while still using two much more powerful abilities, would not do much to prevent corruption, and he'd likely still need to avoid using his powers too often to avoid corruption. I think he'd fit in well with the Dalles, since the majority of epics there are trying (and failing) to avoid corruption. You know guys, this whole discussion on how much gifting helps with the corruption (me being pretty much on the same note as Comatose and Twi on the topic) is entirely pointless, at least for this character. With him teleporting to wherever he's going to end up in the Dalles whatever shred of decency he had will be completely corrupted. No, it's not. He's kinda unstable. Yes, he got engaged after his rending. She helped him stop using his powers as often, and for a while. He was better. Now that she is dead, he will slowly start falling appart, even with the minor gifting. It doesn't help that he now has no one to gift to. Edit: Also, Prof gave David his regen abilities, without the Tensor abilities. What you also might want to look into is that another location should open fairly soon, focusing more on action. Ask Voidus if you're interested in more details. the only issue I really have with this is that I'm not sure gifting works that way mechanically- either you are a gifter and can gift all your powers, or just one or more in different amounts, or you are not a gifter. Its binary. Either you are an elephant, or you are a lion. You can't be a bit of both. We know exactly two gifters, (not counting the guy that made the Diggers) one of them only having one power he could possibly gift and the other one being Prof, who by no means is a measurment for standard Epic powers and given that we already know that some powers of Epics can work by slightly different rules than the other powers they have, I don't see why gifting has to be an all or nothing deal.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 You know guys, this whole discussion on how much gifting helps with the corruption (me being pretty much on the same note as Comatose and Twi on the topic) is entirely pointless, at least for this character. With him teleporting to wherever he's going to end up in the Dalles whatever shred of decency he had will be completely corrupted. I think I'm addicted to that meme generator. But yes, using his powers for himself to that extent would undo any good his past gifting had done. And add my voice to those others who like the idea of his arc following him as he slowly falls apart. 2
Fatebreaker he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Sounds good. Which weakness did he learn today? Excellent. Whoops, wasn't thinking when I wrote that. I meant to say he'd be reflecting on all of the new information while trying to figure out new weaknesses.
Voidus Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Just started Salem because I had a random idea for a conversation I wanted to start and I didn't want to wait for the next game day Actual combat will start up once the Dalles and Portland are done for the night.
Blackhoof Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 We know exactly two gifters, (not counting the guy that made the Diggers) one of them only having one power he could possibly gift and the other one being Prof, who by no means is a measurment for standard Epic powers and given that we already know that some powers of Epics can work by slightly different rules than the other powers they have, I don't see why gifting has to be an all or nothing deal. I don't know, but by this logic we could do whatever we like because we have limited examples and things we "knew" about Epics have already been changed massively by Firefight. We could just break canon left and right and say "well we only have X number of examples, I see no reason it couldn't be different". It just seems to me that the way gifting is talked about "X Epic is a gifter" not, "X Epic possessed giftable powers" that an Epic is either a gifter or not. And heck maybe in Calamity or in an AMA it will be confirmed for sure that gifters can only have all their powers giftable or none, and then his character will be canon-breaking although to be fair that wouldn't be the first time haha
Edgedancer he/him Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I think I'm addicted to that meme generator. But yes, using his powers for himself to that extent would undo any good his past gifting had done. And add my voice to those others who like the idea of his arc following him as he slowly falls apart. It happens from time to time. Me having planed for more than one Epic to succumb to corruption also helps somewhat. Oh no, Twi is addicted to amusing all of us with Meme jokes. Just started Salem because I had a random idea for a conversation I wanted to start and I didn't want to wait for the next game day Actual combat will start up once the Dalles and Portland are done for the night. And so it starts. So what can Savannah do? I don't know, but by this logic we could do whatever we like because we have limited examples and things we "knew" about Epics have already been changed massively by Firefight. We could just break canon left and right and say "well we only have X number of examples, I see no reason it couldn't be different". It just seems to me that the way gifting is talked about "X Epic is a gifter" not, "X Epic possessed giftable powers" that an Epic is either a gifter or not. And heck maybe in Calamity or in an AMA it will be confirmed for sure that gifters can only have all their powers giftable or none, and then his character will be canon-breaking although to be fair that wouldn't be the first time haha They never talked about it like that, though. Edmund only has one power, so saying he can only gift his one power and not his secondary that he doesn't have wouldn't make sense and with Prof what he can transfere has been established long before it was revealed he is an Epic and actually gifts his powers, if anything Prof hints in seperate gifting of powers given that nothing indicates he ever gifted his enhanced strenght to any of the Reckoners, even though there is no reason he shouldn't Given that we don't have exact canon on this matter and what canon does give us (large scale powers immune to weaknesses, while the small scale still gets neutralized and some powers like Steelheart's Steel Transfersion suffering from emotional power incontinence but having full control over his other abilities and Prof never gifting his enhanced strenght) assuming only some powers can be gifted for some Epics is a way safer assumption than many things we have done before, like Meta powers.
Voidus Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 And so it starts. So what can Savannah do? Savannah: Shapeshifter who can transform into a cheetah and draw any nearby water to him, including groundwater and even some water from within peoples bodies, prolonged use can kill people by dehydration. As for Brighthead and Fundemented I have no idea, just thought of their names as I was typing.
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