Mailliw73 he/him Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I know you can't push or pull metals in some else's body, but what about your own, does it mention it in the books anywhere?
realmatist Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Things are pushed and pulled relative to you. I'm guessing that if you tried to push or pull, nothing would happen because the metal is inside you and pushing and pulling are external powers.
Eric Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Yep, Zane specifically pulls this trick off. He hides a coin in his mouth to give himself something to Push or Pull on to prevent himself from falling, and I'm completely at a loss as to how that works, so I may be misremembering something else that was going on. My books are MIA at the moment.
Vortaan he/him Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Yep, Zane specifically pulls this trick off. He hides a coin in his mouth to give himself something to Push or Pull on to prevent himself from falling, and I'm completely at a loss as to how that works, so I may be misremembering something else that was going on. My books are MIA at the moment. He hides the coin to prevent it being pushed or pulled away, and to give him an edge. In a Mistborn battle, having a coin that can't be pushed or pulled on until you want it to happen is a huge advantage.
happyman he/him Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Others have been saying this, but I wished to clarify it. Zane's trick was to keep the coin in reserve in his mouth. When he actually pushed and pulled on it, it was outside him. Basically, it was another Mistborn trick, a clever one. Your opponent thinks you don't have any metal left and can't follow you? Guess what...
Eric Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Right, thank you. Couldn't find my book to check.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted January 6, 2013 Author Posted January 6, 2013 Zane had one in his mouth, but it wasnt when he Pushed on it. What about if a needle was stabbed into your skin?
Observer Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 Short answer: No Longer answer: You can't push on metals inside yourself for two reasons One: Steel and Iron are external metals, not internal Two: The reason it's really difficult to push on metals in a body is because the body's investure screws up your magical changes. Your body has investure too, and therefore will resist the magic being used on it.
TASB Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Actually you can push and pull on metal inside another person. You just have to be really powerful. Go re-read the chapter where Vin kills the Lord Ruler.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 I was talking about regular coin shots or lurchers
TASB Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I was talking about regular coin shots or lurchers Assuming you could. What practical use could you envisage?
Phantom Monstrosity Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Assuming you could. What practical use could you envisage? Wolverine claws? For a gold twinborn. Edited January 14, 2013 by Phantom Monstrosity 2
Nepene he/him Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Most couldn't, but in theory a very strong steel or iron pusher who could do some cognitive mind trickery to convince himself that his arm wasn't part of him could. This is a cognitive magic of the sort that the guy who looked for alespren in way of kings did, or the forger did in TES. We don't know exactly how it would work.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 Assuming you could. What practical use could you envisage? Somewhat like wolverine claws, you have a needle or pin slightly stabbed into you between knuckles and you could aim and shoot a needle out of your hand
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