mail-mi he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Plot twist- READER is Captain First World Problems! What's that? Sorry, I couldn't hear you over how much win this post has.
Sirce Luckwielder he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Characters have used it before in the Portland thread. In context, it does make sense--Oregon is notoriously stormy, so "storms" could become a curse word much the same way as "what the blazing sunlight" could become a curse in Arizona. (Plus it fits as a shoutout. ) So if many profanities are based on weather, makes me wonder how "bloody" become a swear in England? Am I the only one wondering if British weather is . . . 1
Blackhoof Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 to be honest this setting needs more than three insults/curses sparks and slontze have become horribly overused in my opinion hahaha I keep forgetting about 'calamity' especially since I think sparks is a uniquely Newcago thing considering that every movement would cause sparks and all. all the sparks. everywhere. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 to be honest this setting needs more than three insults/curses sparks and slontze have become horribly overused in my opinion hahaha I keep forgetting about 'calamity' especially since I think sparks is a uniquely Newcago thing considering that every movement would cause sparks and all. all the sparks. everywhere. UNLESS there was an Epic named Sparky who terrorized all of the Fractured States before falling to the Stormfather, an even more powerful Epic whose power had nothing to do with storms and everything to do with making people turn his name into a curse word! ... Kobold, what should Autumn do while waiting for Vondra to arrive so she can defend herself against the accusations of Captain Crankypants give her report? 2
Blackhoof Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Stormfather would actually be a sparking cool Epic name
Mailliw73 he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 This is the link to the decision: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/22583-question-6/page-52#entry223555 basically, you guys agreed that forcefields must have entropy and were a type of energy. the fact that certain things can pass through the bubble also implies to me that it isn't a solid, but a special type of energy or plasma. but as the newb, I'm just parroting what everyone else said- that no matter how Malliw described the forcefield, it was energy and Disruption could get through it. Certain things can't pass through Smasher's bubbles. Only incorporeal things, like Smasher himself. Nothing else can unless it was created in something, and that's only with the energy stipulant. I don't know, it being energy just feels wrong to me, but I don't have the science to back it up. Characters have used it before in the Portland thread. In context, it does make sense--Oregon is notoriously stormy, so "storms" could become a curse word much the same way as "what the blazing sunlight" could become a curse in Arizona. (Plus it fits as a shoutout. ) I used raining as a curse in Hypno's post by one of the Corvallis citizens. I figured that with hardly any rain and foul weather, things like that would become more common. to be honest this setting needs more than three insults/curses sparks and slontze have become horribly overused in my opinion hahaha I keep forgetting about 'calamity' especially since I think sparks is a uniquely Newcago thing considering that every movement would cause sparks and all. all the sparks. everywhere. I agree about sparks, but we just don't know enough about the world to use anything else. 1
Blaze1616 he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Certain things can't pass through Smasher's bubbles. Only incorporeal things, like Smasher himself. Nothing else can unless it was created in something, and that's only with the energy stipulant. I don't know, it being energy just feels wrong to me, but I don't have the science to back it up. This. Her field breaks physics. It's essentially a sieve, except she controls the specific things that can and can't pass through the filter. She mentally specifies as she puts the bubble up, and cannot change the bubble afterwards, so if she were wanting to allow something else through, she'd have to replace the bubble with a new one. As such, her Corvallis bubble allows air and water to pass through (the latter so that the Williamette River doesn't flood the area surrounding the bubble). If her PI is triggered, the only thing that is default allowed through is air. She can, of course, intentionally alter this, but default is only air. If any old energy manipulator could break through her bubbles (I presume they are a rather common powerset, like fire based Epics, Converter is just a rather strong variant) then her ability isn't anywhere near as useful as was initially intended. That was why the limiting factor to her bubble is conviniently in place. The moment her PI activates, the bubble around Corvallis falls and she has to scramble to 1) survive whatever triggered her PI and 2) scramble to OSU campus to replace the bubble. Let me know if you're still confused or opposed. Edited April 30, 2015 by Blaze1616 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Speaking of Murderlina... If her weakness is people she has a "lawful excuse" to kill, how would that work in Newcago? As I understood it, Epics could kill with impunity, so technically speaking, every non-Epic in the city should be immune. Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, which I've been known to do. A bit of a complicated question given that law is purely an abstract concept but given that Epics like Steelheart aren't really lawful rulers one could say that the capitulation act is the last lawful act concerning Epics, meaning Murderlina has a "lawful excuse" to kill everyone. Is it too soon to send Shiny in to reinforce Deathwish? No not at all, but thank you that you asked anyway. So, is Deathwishe's head still stuck? Similar, creating and detonating explosives. Then there's also Shiny Sparkle, who can just explode stuff. My mom doesn't get the concept of "no spoilers." She'll actually ask for people to spoil the ending and get annoyed when they refuse. (Which is why I really want her to read the first Alcatraz book: she always reads the last page first.) That's one of many reasons why I like Brandon Sanderson so much: his books have enough surprises that, even if you catch wind of a major spoiler, you'll still be turning pages frantically to see what happens next. (That, and I'm the only one in my family who's read anything besides the Reckoners books, so I don't have to worry about my siblings reading them first. ) Who does that? Just wait until she reads the second Alcatraz book. Those are filling in for the F-bombs Deathwish should realistically be spraying right now. We need a curse that indicates a higher level of emotion than "sparks," so we've taken to using the words that we know most other RPers are already familiar with that have the virtue of not being blocked by the profanity filters. EDIT: Also, finally read Voidgazes' updated biography on the wiki. Not for the first time, I want to give her a hug. It almost feels like character censorship sometimes. No good curses I tell ya. You can figuratevily hug her by filling out that personality and behaviour section. Which she would appreciate much more than being physically hugged. Kobold, what should Autumn do while waiting for Vondra to arrive so she can defend herself against the accusations of Captain Crankypants give her report? What do you mean? I'm sure she would be extremely bussy acting as a cheerleader and dodging the coleteral damage, while Shiny Sparkle is showing off. 1
Blackhoof Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 This. Her field breaks physics. It's essentially a sieve, except she controls the specific things that can and can't pass through the filter. She mentally specifies as she puts the bubble up, and cannot change the bubble afterwards, so if she were wanting to allow something else through, she'd have to replace the bubble with a new one. As such, her Corvallis bubble allows air and water to pass through (the latter so that the Williamette River doesn't flood the area surrounding the bubble). If her PI is triggered, the only thing that is default allowed through is air. She can, of course, intentionally alter this, but default is only air. If any old energy manipulator could break through her bubbles (I presume they are a rather common powerset, like fire based Epics, Converter is just a rather strong variant) then her ability isn't anywhere near as useful as was initially intended. That was why the limiting factor to her bubble is conviniently in place. The moment her PI activates, the bubble around Corvallis falls and she has to scramble to 1) survive whatever triggered her PI and 2) scramble to OSU campus to replace the bubble. Let me know if you're still confused or opposed. yeah, that makes sense.
Kobold King he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Kobold, what should Autumn do while waiting for Vondra to arrive so she can defend herself against the accusations of Captain Crankypants give her report? Um... uh... hrrr... well... I can get Vondra to the HQ after Shiny leaves, I guess. Just to remove that pesky waiting period. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 Um... uh... hrrr... well... I can get Vondra to the HQ after Shiny leaves, I guess. Just to remove that pesky waiting period. Darn. And I was looking forward to writing Autumn spinning in a swivel chair, singing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" until he arrived. 2
Kobold King he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Darn. And I was looking forward to writing Autumn spinning in a swivel chair, singing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" until he arrived. I think doing that would officially make Autumn Arsenal's archnemesis. 1
Voidus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I think doing that would officially make Autumn Arsenal's archnemesis. Neverthere could beat that in 5 seconds flat. Come to think of it she's mostly just been projecting around Portland, she might be taking some longer distance trips in the near future. 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 I think doing that would officially make Autumn Arsenal's archnemesis. Everybody needs one. 1
Kobold King he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Neverthere could beat that in 5 seconds flat. Come to think of it she's mostly just been projecting around Portland, she might be taking some longer distance trips in the near future. Hmm... maybe Lightwards could have her check up on Backtrack in exchange for resurrecting Numnums? 1
Voidus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Hmm... maybe Lightwards could have her check up on Backtrack in exchange for resurrecting Numnums? Could he resurrect Numnums first so she projects there with him? I really just don't think Backtracks day would be complete unless a pink insane girl riding a giant dinosaur appeared suddenly next to him. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Darn. And I was looking forward to writing Autumn spinning in a swivel chair, singing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" until he arrived. That's a no to her being dragged along then? Oh well, Shiny Sparkle will survive their seperation but who knows how she would react to not hearing Autumn sing. I think doing that would officially make Autumn Arsenal's archnemesis. He's going to lead a personal war against Shiny Sparkle, won't he? 2
Voidus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 A Shinysparkle Neverthere meeting would also be interesting. As well as inducing cardiac arrest in Arsenal they can have an 'insane jealous teleporting girlfriend with non consenting partner' competition.You guys have those in the states too don't you? 2
Kobold King he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Could he resurrect Numnums first so she projects there with him? I really just don't think Backtracks day would be complete unless a pink insane girl riding a giant dinosaur appeared suddenly next to him. Hmm, let me think about that one for a minute... Absolutely. That's a no to her being dragged along then? Oh well, Shiny Sparkle will survive their seperation but who knows how she would react to not hearing Autumn sing. He's going to lead a personal war against Shiny Sparkle, won't he? Dragging the city counselor out of the HQ and into an ongoing Epic war zone would be a very bad idea. Not as bad as taking an unscreened Epic into the HQ, but still pretty bad and Arsenal will have none of it. 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 Hmm, let me think about that one for a minute... Absolutely. Dragging the city counselor out of the HQ and into an ongoing Epic war zone would be a very bad idea. Not as bad as taking an unscreened Epic into the HQ, but still pretty bad and Arsenal will have none of it. Hey, at least Autumn had a reason for taking an unscreened Epic into a command center--a better reason than "I want the cute girl to see me kick cultist butt!" 4
Kobold King he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Hey, at least Autumn had a reason for taking an unscreened Epic into a command center--a better reason than "I want the cute girl to see me kick cultist butt!" As far as Arsenal is concerned, Autumn should have risked being blown up before violating city security in such a heinous way. He's not very understanding. 3
Voidus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 As far as Arsenal is concerned, Autumn should have risked being blown up before violating city security in such a heinous way. He's not very understanding. I get the feeling Arsenals the kind of person who thinks people should be blown up rather than swearing. 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 As far as Arsenal is concerned, Autumn should have risked being blown up before violating city security in such a heinous way. He's not very understanding. Is there a trope for that? Kind of like Honor Before Reason, only more like Security Before the People the Freaking Security Exists to Protect? 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 A Shinysparkle Neverthere meeting would also be interesting. As well as inducing cardiac arrest in Arsenal they can have an 'insane jealous teleporting girlfriend with non consenting partner' competition. You guys have those in the states too don't you? I'm not sure if jealous is the right term for Shiny Sparkle. I'm pretty sure that as long as she gets included she'd be up for a threesome or something along those lines. She would like the dinosaur though. Dragging the city counselor out of the HQ and into an ongoing Epic war zone would be a very bad idea. Not as bad as taking an unscreened Epic into the HQ, but still pretty bad and Arsenal will have none of it. Who said that he, or anyone for that matter, gets asked. (By the way, I don't think she has any clue who Deathwish is so you might want to add a small description or Shiny Sparkle will drag Autumn along just to have herID him. ) Hey, at least Autumn had a reason for taking an unscreened Epic into a command center--a better reason than "I want the cute girl to see me kick cultist butt!" Showing of is a old and proven method of courtship. Granted, the dark ages don't make for the best example but at least she is holding up a tradition. 2
Kobold King he/him Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not sure if jealous is the right term for Shiny Sparkle. I'm pretty sure that as long as she gets included she'd be up for a threesome or something along those lines. She would like the dinosaur though. Who said that he, or anyone for that matter, gets asked. (By the way, I don't think she has any clue who Deathwish is so you might want to add a small description or Shiny Sparkle will drag Autumn along just to have herID him. ) Showing of is a old and proven method of courtship. Granted, the dark ages don't make for the best example but at least she is holding up a tradition. Arsenal's thoughts on Shiny Sparkle: I was thinking he might send her with an armed member of the City Guard to guide her to the right part of town and ID Deathwish. 2
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