Comatose he/him Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 No need to be sorry, I often have trouble verbalizing my thoughts (though my thoughts are beautifully written, rest assured). David's lack of knowledge on Dawnslight is an issue. The only explanation I can come up with is that the Babilaran's concept of Dawnslight as a deity and not an Epic could have kept info about the phenomenon from reaching David. In addition, it is likely that Babilar has an incredibly low rate of exit traffic, considering the generally good state of the city. So the people who do leave might not even bother mentioning it (of course, the more obvious answer is that in order to show us the true beauty and oddity that is Babylon Restored, Brandon needed someone with completely virgin thoughts on the city, a mindset his readers would share with the PoV character to help establish connection). As for Steelheart, obviously prior to his dad's death David didn't collect the information on Epics. Also, as a kid, he likely didn't bother with the news (I know I didn't). David's dad, on the other hand, is the odd ball here. The media was definitely still around at the time, as you and Twi have pointed out, yet David's dad still had no working knowledge of Steelheart. I still think Steelheart's image likely never surfaced. I was unaware/had forgotten that Steelhearts arrival in Chicago was a whole year after Epics began showing their ugly mugs. Now, I definitely don't doubt that evidence of Steelhearts Rending was found, but Steelheart himself being captured for news organizations to broadcast/print is still within the realm of likely possibilities. Steelheart Rends (is that proper grammar?), destroying whatever is in his path in his blind rage, and then leaves. Unless there just happened to be a reporter with a camera on scene already, I don't think it is very likely they'd have images of him to show people. In addition, I doubt Paul Jackson happened to be wearing his amazing super-villain get-up during his Reding. So David's dad, upon seeing a large, muscular, god-like man dressed as a comic hero telling another Epic--who is trying to rob the bank--to stop what he's doing, thinking "hey, a good Epic!" is not so far-fetched to me. I found this gem on page 13 of my Steelheart harcover: "Something huge had just happened, something that exposed Steelheart, something that terrified him. He was a new Epic back then, not very well known in town, but I'd heard of him. He was supposed to be invulnerable." So I guess David HAD heard of Steelheart. Perhaps at first he and his father did not realize it was Steelheart they were seeing, until AFTER David at least saw the full extent of his powers. In the opening chapters of Firefight, David also mentions a fledgling press being restored to Chicago, so I'm assuming there was a news industry there before Steelheart came and shut it down. 1
Blackhoof Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I found this gem on page 13 of my Steelheart harcover: So I guess David HAD heard of Steelheart. Perhaps at first he and his father did not realize it was Steelheart they were seeing, until AFTER David at least saw the full extent of his powers. In the opening chapters of Firefight, David also mentions a fledgling press being restored to Chicago, so I'm assuming there was a news industry there before Steelheart came and shut it down. that is true, he did not name himself during the bank incident. Maybe he was wearing a different costume than previous appearances, still working it out and all.
happyman he/him Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Seriously, with the number of Epics running around, even if you had heard of him, that doesn't mean you realize how powerful he is or what he looks like. It's true that the news would cover the epics like they were going out of style, but eventually you run out of time, energy and manpower to cover all of them in enough detail that the man on the street could identify all of them.
natc Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Speaking of Rendings. . . did Curveball just happen to have a gun on him then? There'd be no difference otherwise than just an angry guy. All he does is infinite bullets.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Speaking of Rendings. . . did Curveball just happen to have a gun on him then? There'd be no difference otherwise than just an angry guy. All he does is infinite bullets. There was a WoB a while back where he said less powerful Epics like Curveball don't go through Rendings, while powerful Epics do.
Edgedancer he/him Posted April 9, 2015 Author Posted April 9, 2015 I found this gem on page 13 of my Steelheart harcover: So I guess David HAD heard of Steelheart. Perhaps at first he and his father did not realize it was Steelheart they were seeing, until AFTER David at least saw the full extent of his powers. In the opening chapters of Firefight, David also mentions a fledgling press being restored to Chicago, so I'm assuming there was a news industry there before Steelheart came and shut it down. Today on Epic daily: Our cover story, the fearsome Metronome! This mighty Epic is capable of telling you exactly what tme it is. [...] On other news there is a new Epic in town, completely invulnerable and capable of casually levelling entire buildings with his energy beams. We think his name is Steelpug... I'm sorry his name is Steelheart, Steelpug is some random guy on the internet. We don't have a good picture but we're sure that he won't be any trouble at all and we will never hear of him again. The misrepresentation in said newscast is the actual reason Steelheart took over Chicago, so he could fire the reporters and replace television with is own programms that respected him. 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Today on Epic daily: Our cover story, the fearsome Metronome! This mighty Epic is capable of telling you exactly what tme it is. [...] On other news there is a new Epic in town, completely invulnerable and capable of casually levelling entire buildings with his energy beams. We think his name is Steelpug... I'm sorry his name is Steelheart, Steelpug is some random guy on the internet. We don't have a good picture but we're sure that he won't be any trouble at all and we will never hear of him again. The misrepresentation in said newscast is the actual reason Steelheart took over Chicago, so he could fire the reporters and replace television with is own programms that respected him. Curtailing actual news in favor of the trivially bizarre. Now where have I heard that before? 2
Voidus Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Today on Epic daily: Our cover story, the fearsome Metronome! This mighty Epic is capable of telling you exactly what tme it is. [...] On other news there is a new Epic in town, completely invulnerable and capable of casually levelling entire buildings with his energy beams. We think his name is Steelpug... I'm sorry his name is Steelheart, Steelpug is some random guy on the internet. We don't have a good picture but we're sure that he won't be any trouble at all and we will never hear of him again. The misrepresentation in said newscast is the actual reason Steelheart took over Chicago, so he could fire the reporters and replace television with is own programms that respected him. In other news, reports state that the... *To one side: I'm not saying that, there's no way that's real. No one will take this seriously... Fine! Fine I'll say it. Ehem.. the Pink Pinkness has been terrorizing the southern states. 2
Patrick Star Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Guys, please remember that Steelheart was a drugged up conspiracy theorist. He was probably high and/or drunk and slept/stumbled through his rending. Remember, don't drink and fly! 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Guys, please remember that Steelheart was a drugged up conspiracy theorist. He was probably high and/or drunk and slept/stumbled through his rending. Remember, don't drink and fly! I don't always to through a Rending, but when I do, I probably drank Dos Equus earlier.
Kobold King he/him Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Guys, please remember that Steelheart was a drugged up conspiracy theorist. He was probably high and/or drunk and slept/stumbled through his rending. Remember, don't drink and fly! Where did it say "drugged up"?
Patrick Star Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Where did it say "drugged up"? My bad, I have bad memory But seriously, he's a night watchman at a factory who's also a doomsday prepper. I'd give him a solid % chance at being one.
Voidus Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Where did it say "drugged up"? You didn't get the Steelheart: Special Edition? Woah that explains so much, so you also don't know that Nightwielder is part mermaid? 2
Kobold King he/him Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 You didn't get the Steelheart: Special Edition? Woah that explains so much, so you also don't know that Nightwielder is part mermaid? Technically, we're all half mer-person from the waist up. 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 You didn't get the Steelheart: Special Edition? Woah that explains so much, so you also don't know that Nightwielder is part mermaid? Great. Next thing you know, the special editions will be saying that Regalia and Obliteration met at a luau in Cleveland and Steelheart resurrects every full moon. 2
Voidus Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Great. Next thing you know, the special editions will be saying that Regalia and Obliteration met at a luau in Cleveland and Steelheart resurrects every full moon. 1
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