.S.A.M.K.M Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 The survivor told vin that if she attempted to burn metals that were not the acknowledged allomantic metals, it would kill her. I was wondering why would some metals kill, this worlds magic are based in metals, sure different metal have different powers, but why would they kill. This made me think that they simply did not know how to burn it. There is a godmetal that makes mistborns, but when alloyed with the allomantic metals it creates mistings. THis makes me think that is a person burns an alloy of the god metal with one of the killer metals, an type of misting and a new form of power would be created. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I don't think so, because otherwise all that stuff about the 16 metals would be moot. plus, it's not like there are different ways of burning metal. you can burn it or you can't. if your theory was true, than a (for example) smoker would be able to burn steel, but he'd die for it. instead, he just don't feel the reserve. Also, being sick from burning wrong metals only happens when you burn an impure metal or an alloy with wrong percentages. if the metal has no allomantic properties (for example nichel, manganese, platinum) a mistborn just can't burn it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Yasha Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Not all alloys that aren't acknowledged Allomantic metals kill. Before Vin discovered duralumin she tried various combinations of metals that made her varying degrees of ill, from a slight headache lasting hours, to being bed-ridden with flu-like symptoms for weeks. Lerasium is different in that it is the compounded metal form of Preservation's body. Alloyed with one of the other base metals creates a Misting of that metal but alloyed with a "killer" metal would render it useless. Until new base metals are found we can't be entirely sure what an Allomancer can burn to produce an effect. Again, not ALL non-Allomantic metals kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaderAt2046 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Not all alloys that aren't acknowledged Allomantic metals kill. Before Vin discovered duralumin she tried various combinations of metals that made her varying degrees of ill, from a slight headache lasting hours, to being bed-ridden with flu-like symptoms for weeks. Lerasium is different in that it is the compounded metal form of Preservation's body. Alloyed with one of the other base metals creates a Misting of that metal but alloyed with a "killer" metal would render it useless. Until new base metals are found we can't be entirely sure what an Allomancer can burn to produce an effect. Again, not ALL non-Allomantic metals kill. Appearantly, the bad duralumin recipes were close enough to count as impure aluminum or duralumin, not a completely unburnable metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Yasha Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Appearantly, the bad duralumin recipes were close enough to count as impure aluminum or duralumin, not a completely unburnable metal. My point was they produce no Allomantic abilities, therefore being non-Allomantic alloys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triasmus Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 My point was they produce no Allomantic abilities, therefore being non-Allomantic alloys. Unless they do. I seem to recall Vin not knowing what duralumin does for a while, until she tried it while burning something else. Any allomantic abilities they might produce (which i'd imagine would be very akin to aluminum or duralumin, if they did give abilities) just aren't worth testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Yasha Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Unless they do. I seem to recall Vin not knowing what duralumin does for a while, until she tried it while burning something else. Any allomantic abilities they might produce (which i'd imagine would be very akin to aluminum or duralumin, if they did give abilities) just aren't worth testing. What you might also remember is that Vin tried different alloys of aluminium to discover duralumin. There was no Allomantic ability produced from the metal combinations Vin tried in that gap; she fell ill often from trying the impure mixtures with nothing notable. However, none of those mixtures killed her (obviously). Vin didn't know what duralumin did because she had to burn it while she was burning another metal. That has nothing to do with the chemistry of the mixtures she tried before discovering the duralumin concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) On the one hand, having impure aluminum would have done nothing but make her sick if she had no other metals in her system at the time. Impure enough and it wouldn't have even wiped her other metals. However, if she had achieved impure duralumin, and had burned it alone, it would have made her ill without producing a notable effect. I think that's what Lantern was getting at there. The note is ambiguous enough to allow for it. Edited August 14, 2012 by Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triasmus Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 On the one hand, having impure aluminum would have done nothing but make her sick if she had no other metals in her system at the time. Impure enough and it wouldn't have even wiped her other metals. However, if she had achieved impure duralumin, and had burned it alone, it would have made her ill without producing a notable effect. I think that's what Lantern was getting at there. The note is ambiguous enough to allow for it. Yep. One of these days I'm gonna learn how to send my thoughts out correctly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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